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The Ax - AxR testing thread
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The Ax - AxR testing thread
12-22-2009 6:44 AM

Hello everyone

Do not expect any posts here for the next couple of weeks. AD banned me from testing my mix Ax on their forums so I have made this thread to redirect my testers. I have had to send them letters to let them know about this as any pm I send in the AD forum will probably be intercepted.

The first round of testing showed some promise but the 9 testers each had different concentrations of the mix as I was trying to figure out the best combination.

I am planning to start the second round in a week or two. All the holes discovered in the first round have been covered and this time everyone will get the same concentration.

I look forward to starting my tests here.

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12-22-2009 8:57 AM

Hi IBTC, there was some discussion about your thread being taken down and potentially good mix you have. What actually caused the ban?

Edit: I have just seen the thread you started.
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12-22-2009 9:00 AM

(12-22-2009 8:57 AM)xxx Wrote:  Hi IBTC, there was some discussion about your thread being taken down and potentially good mix you have. What actually caused the ban?


My mix used 3 ingredients which were not manufactured by AD so they felt that testing it on their forums was against their business interests.

If any posts discussing my mix are still up on the Pherotalk forum, could you please pm me the links as I would like to take a look at those.

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12-22-2009 12:53 PM

(12-22-2009 9:00 AM)ibelledthecat Wrote:  


My mix used 3 ingredients which were not manufactured by AD so they felt that testing it on their forums was against their business interests.

If any posts discussing my mix are still up on the Pherotalk forum, could you please pm me the links as I would like to take a look at those.

Sure I'll look out for it. Maybe 1 of the secret ingredients you have is similar to AD putatives or T series!

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12-22-2009 1:00 PM

(12-22-2009 12:53 PM)xxx Wrote:  

 

Sure I'll look out for it. Maybe 1 of the secret ingredients you have is similar to AD putatives or T series!



I don't think that can be possible because the other 3 ingredients are made in the lab by my scientist friend (i shall call him The Brain from now on) by combining chemicals. AD wan't too happy with me testing on their forums because they thought that I might compete with them at some point in the future.

I had always thought that I would work with them for distributing the mix if it became commercial some day, but I don't see that happening now.

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12-22-2009 1:25 PM

(12-22-2009 1:00 PM)ibelledthecat Wrote:  
I don't think that can be possible because the other 3 ingredients are made in the lab by my scientist friend (i shall call him The Brain from now on) by combining chemicals. AD wan't too happy with me testing on their forums because they thought that I might compete with them at some point in the future.

I had always thought that I would work with them for distributing the mix if it became commercial some day, but I don't see that happening now.


I seriously doubt that will ever happen, cat. You're not the only one who's made that mistake.

They don't encourage independent excellence and they don't "work" with anyone. Their game is total control. Resistance is futile! The few members who have successfully had their mixes "go to market" (i.e., distributed by AD) drank the Kool-Aid and have sold their soul to the devil for a pittance. If you won't sell your soul to the devil they'll shut you up in a heartbeat... and you're out.

Good luck testing your mixes! I'lll be looking forward to the reports! :cool:


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12-22-2009 1:40 PM

(12-22-2009 1:25 PM)Bella Wrote:  


I seriously doubt that will ever happen, cat. You're not the only one who's made that mistake.

They don't encourage independent excellence and they don't "work" with anyone. Their game is total control. Resistance is futile! The few members who have successfully had their mixes "go to market" (i.e., distributed by AD) drank the Kool-Aid and have sold their soul to the devil for a pittance. If you won't sell your soul to the devil they'll shut you up in a heartbeat... and you're out.

Good luck testing your mixes! I'lll be looking forward to the reports! :cool:


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You are right I guess. I think their problem was maybe the fact that I was unwilling to sell them the process of making the mix or the list of ingredients. The only way I was going to work with them was that I made the mix and they bottled and distributed it. That way I still had total control over my mix and that might have put them off. 

The thing is that I never 'needed' to work with them. I have a few businesses of my own and I have everything necessary to set up shop within a couple of days if I wanted to. I wanted to do it as a favour to them because they introduced me to the world of pheromones (not counting pherlure as one).

I wonder if something similar happened with Pheroproof because I heard quite a bit about it on the AD forums although I never got a chance to use it.

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12-22-2009 3:32 PM

(12-22-2009 1:40 PM)ibelledthecat Wrote:  
I wonder if something similar happened with Pheroproof because I heard quite a bit about it on the AD forums although I never got a chance to use it.



No they supposedly had the pheroproof recipe, but had an agreement with futurist that probably went south. 

Diane's another great example of how well ADS works with others:  They lead her to believe that they wanted to work with her on her coplulin forumla and distribute for her, until they saw that she wasn't going to just turn everything over to them, then they banned and bad mouthed her.

And, lets not even talk about Stone Labs!

Youo're far better off without them!


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12-22-2009 4:47 PM

Hey belled, got your message, glad to be able to point you in the right direction for some proper advice!

Just to kick things off for those of you who haven't seen the reports over at the dark side, here's my latest journal entry from AD.




Thanks guys and gals, I don't know, disappear for a few months and look at what happens!

Right, C is gone, aside from her daughter banging on the wall and telling her to bite on the pillow, dragging me off for a week of sun, sea and sex in Turkey, she wanted the whole living together, joint bank account etc. I just wanted to have fun.

Since then I dated a 29yo nurse a couple of times, even with the phero assist, there wasn't enough to interest her, just remember, the magic bottles can only assist what is already there.

Have a couple of irons in the fire, 35yo caucasian brunette ® which could be a long term prospect and a 28yo blonde (S). Definitely slow burn for the brunette but the blonde seemed to be more fun in the short term. Met for coffee, quick snog etc then, two nights ago, round to hers with a bottle of wine. In the interim, ibelledthecat had sent me one of his Ax test mixes, so went with that, solo, 2 sprays to wrists then rubbed on carotid pulse points. OMG, it's got cops in it, no doubt, sorry to say that I gagged! Covered nicely with a couple of sprays of CK Eternity, no worries.

45 minutes later, in her living room, kids ( one of whom is shy with strangers) have come charging down and are climbing on my lap, S is now eying me as marriage prospect and replacement father! Get kids back to bed, we settle down to film and wine, chill out and kick back. At this point she shoves her wrist under my nose to ask my opinion of her perfume. Now, those of you who know me already know the "experimental US perfumer" line. for those of you who aren't aware, it's a killer, when they ask what you are wearing, give them a wrist ( or your neck, whereever you've sprayed your mix), tell them you work with an perfumer in the US ( or UK, if appropriate) and ask their opinion of this scent,they then take a big noseful,you either get no hit or, in my experience more often than not, it's game over, either a phone number or her panties hit the deck. Yes, I'm a bad man but I've had more sex in the past five months than in the previous 15 years so bite me, lol!

Anyway, S goes crazy, licking my wrist application point, then my neck, literally ripping my shirt off my back and riding me into the ground. Now this girl has two kids and ain't exactly size zero yet apparently I'm the biggest guy she's ever had ( slightly over average but not a pornstar), the best fuck she's had ever ( not the first one to say that recently) three days later she can still not walk, feels like a virgin again and is still bleeding. Unfortunately, she had a night out with her girlfriends last night and told them about me,five of them have called today!!

Slightly more sedate test today, same two sprays, family lunch at the local pub, my dad is away for a few days so my sister/brother in law and I take mum and gran out to lunch, no self effects ( but I'm a cocky bastard anyway), brother in law is quite submissive which is unusual, definite from both girls behind the bar when ordering drinks, the waitress is lingering at the other end of the table, leaning in my direction, displaying cleavage, accentuating the hip wiggle when walking past, making prolonged eye contact. Way too young for me ( probably 19/20) otherwise definitely would have taken things further. Never closer than 6 feet, temp around 20 degress C, no alcohol involved.

Still early days but this is showing some potential, ibelledthecat might be onto something here, well done that man

Footnote, S scared herself with her reaction to me, diamond is back on the prowl in time for new years! Nursey is now showing renewed interest following 'friends' coffee date with residual of AX mix on jacket, maybe time for the full onslaught!
 
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12-22-2009 6:11 PM

(12-22-2009 3:32 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  


No they supposedly had the pheroproof recipe, but had an agreement with futurist that probably went south. 

Diane's another great example of how well ADS works with others:  They lead her to believe that they wanted to work with her on her coplulin forumla and distribute for her, until they saw that she wasn't going to just turn everything over to them, then they banned and bad mouthed her.

And, lets not even talk about Stone Labs!

Youo're far better off without them!

 

Oh, it was more than that.  They also wanted me to lie for them, to tell the forum members I was an Androtics employee.  MH threw a fit when I wouldn't play that game.

If I had compromised my principals and lied for them they could have just claimed all my work was done as their employee, sue me for everything, and probably get away with it.  They are dirty through and through.

And yes, I do still have all the PM's from MH, including the above conversations.

Diane

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