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Pheromones affecting erections?
09-12-2015 2:05 PM

I have been using Xist and Core for the last three days and during sex I have not been able to have multiple erections. This is for me a disturbing development and I wanted to know if anyone else had experienced this.
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09-12-2015 3:23 PM

(09-12-2015 2:05 PM)rand_user Wrote:  I have been using Xist and Core for the last three days and during sex I have not been able to have multiple erections. This is for me a disturbing development and I wanted to know if anyone else had experienced this.

Interesting, I've been considering the impact 'mones have on erectile function myself.

A few questions:
- Were you using Xist and Core simultaneously, or Xist on one occassion and Core on another?
- What dosage and application point?
- Were you using any other scent/pheromone product too?
- Have you tried other products, and what effects did you notice they had on your erections?

I don't own either product you refer to, but I've noticed negative effects from TAC and Chikara.

I recently posted a similar thread and there was a suggestion that some products, like Alpha Treasures was a boner promoter. I've got some on order, but I've yet to receive it.

I suspect certain pheromone ingredients have a positive effect on erectile function, and some are detrimental. I speculate, but as yet have no proof, that some ingredients like androstadienone might reduce testosterone, others may boost serotonin (good for mood, bad for libido), or prolactin (bad for libido), and others disinhibit (like TAC) which could increase performance anxiety if that underlying anxiety already exists. On the flip side, things like androstenone and P75 *may* boost confidence and therefore might have a positive effect. Exposure to copulins has also been shown to boost testosterone, at least in the short term.
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09-12-2015 3:38 PM

Read some threads. Mest has affected my erections . It's true.

And I am an erection monster. In the 15 years of using mones. Methoxyestratetraenone has been down fall.

At 52 I can have sex 6 times per day! Yes it's a burden! But Methoxyestratetraenone will make you limp

Anything else then it's in your mind.
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09-12-2015 4:12 PM

EST and Androstadienone often do this to me... I can get away with Androstadienone in AM for some reason without depression... Must be the balancing pheromones and molecules. In alpha blends Androstadienone usually gets to me. (read : most blends with low none).

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Alpha blends gives alot of erections for me like AM.
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(09-12-2015 3:38 PM)Fishdude Wrote:  Read some threads. Mest has affected my erections . It's true.

And I am an erection monster. In the 15 years of using mones. Methoxyestratetraenone has been down fall.

At 52 I can have sex 6 times per day! Yes it's a burden! But Methoxyestratetraenone will make you limp

Anything else then it's in your mind.

Good info on the Methoxyestratetraenone, but it's going too far to say that anything else is in people's minds based on an n=1 study! That might be the only thing to have affected you - but other things might affect others.

To provide an illustrative example: The evidence suggests that testosterone is important in erections according to a threshold model. Below a certain threshold you're in trouble, above it you've fulfilled a neccessary factor (even though other factors are neccessary too, like hydrogen sulphide, nitric oxide, cAMP, a good dopamine/prolactin ratio etc).

If you're 52 and can have sex 6 times it's likely you have high testosterone, high dopamine and low prolactin, and very good endothelial function. Even if a product knocks you down a little bit, you can be fine because you're so far over the various thresholds. For others who are closer to the thresholds, a product/ingredient may still have a detrimental impact on function.
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(09-12-2015 3:23 PM)Ancillian Wrote:  Interesting, I've been considering the impact 'mones have on erectile function myself.

A few questions:
- Were you using Xist and Core simultaneously, or Xist on one occassion and Core on another?
- What dosage and application point?
- Were you using any other scent/pheromone product too?
- Have you tried other products, and what effects did you notice they had on your erections?

I don't own either product you refer to, but I've noticed negative effects from TAC and Chikara.

I recently posted a similar thread and there was a suggestion that some products, like Alpha Treasures was a boner promoter. I've got some on order, but I've yet to receive it.

I suspect certain pheromone ingredients have a positive effect on erectile function, and some are detrimental. I speculate, but as yet have no proof, that some ingredients like androstadienone might reduce testosterone, others may boost serotonin (good for mood, bad for libido), or prolactin (bad for libido), and others disinhibit (like TAC) which could increase performance anxiety if that underlying anxiety already exists. On the flip side, things like androstenone and P75 *may* boost confidence and therefore might have a positive effect. Exposure to copulins has also been shown to boost testosterone, at least in the short term.

Xist and Core simultaneously. I used quite a bit of it - about 5 sprays of each around the neck and chest area. No other products; these are the only two I have with me at the moment.
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(09-12-2015 9:18 PM)rand_user Wrote:  Xist and Core simultaneously. I used quite a bit of it - about 5 sprays of each around the neck and chest area. No other products; these are the only two I have with me at the moment.

Thanks. I suggest you try each product solo, and see what the effect is. Then you can start to narrow down which product is causing you problems.
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09-13-2015 6:34 AM

So let's start to get a handle on this. I've done searches for the terms "erection", "boner" and "morning wood". I excluded results that related to dietary supplements and things like that, and merely focused on results that seemed to be due to the 'mones. I generally excluded kitchen-sink mixes where it's very hard to tell what individual product is driving things.

I'll post the results in different categories. First up, women's experiences of wearing products that seem to induce erections in men.

It seems that copulins based products have a very positive effect, but perhaps not the Temptress XS product. The positive effect of copulins makes sense given it's demonstrated testosterone-boosting effect. I wouldn't be surprised if it had some action on the dopamine/prolactin system too.

Instant Sexiness may have a positive impact on male desire/sex-drive too, but it's unclear to me what its ingredients are.

Sexpionage = good
(05-27-2013 11:18 PM)NuTrix Wrote:  Advantages:
Aggressiveness, rock hard erection, bent toward experimentation and friendly competition over who gets to be on top, multiple orgasms and usually followed by a round 2 when time allows - irregardless of how long round 1 went on....

SS4W = good
(05-05-2014 4:24 PM)Akelah Wrote:  Quick entry

Yesterday I applied OCCO Ambrosia down my torso ("inverted lollypop") and SS4W oil Sneaky clean in the morning.
Some hours later B1 met me, and after he left he texted me "god you smelled good today!".

Much later (like 12h later) after we went to bed, at some point he layed his head on my chest and got crazy. He sniffed my torso over and over and said: "I just love your smell, I swear it turns me on! I have a boner now and it's 90% because of your smell!".

Obviously I know this for a long time and he said some things like this already, but this time was so direct I felt the need to come hear and scream to all the still skeptics:
- COPS ARE MAGIC! LIKE ANIMAL MAGIC -

Instant Sexiness = good, Temptress = bad.
(03-28-2014 1:45 PM)MyTongueInTheMirror Wrote:  You know what, I completely agree with you! They are similar, but Temptress has something...less.

Dont get me wrong, it potent and does what it says it will, but in a different way. It's ALPHA, just not always my kind of alpha. The first time I wore this, my ex boyfriend, who I'll admit was a pretty...submissive pushover type, lost his boner in the middle of sex. I shit you not. We were fucking, and it was gone in an instance. He was confused, but I wasnt. :/

In other words, for me, It's more dominatrix, than dominant.

I wore it today, and it's still missing something. I dont...I dont feel like a stripper. Or rather, I dont feel like every married woman's worst nightmare, which is how IS made me feel.

With temptress my guy lost his boner, with Instant Sexiness/A, guys fucked me like an escort.

I want that back. ^_^


Copulin Cream = good
(01-28-2013 12:43 AM)Isis Wrote:  Used the copulin cream again today.

A bit cruel of me since I couldn't engage in any bedroom activities. But I really do like the cream for its moisturizing properties. The copulins is an added bonus. I took a nap while the boy watching tv and woke up to him trying to rev my engine. I had to turn him down. He asked me if I was wearing an perfume with lavender in it. Lol! He asked this because he read that lavender stimulated blood flow to the penis and he couldn't figure out why his erection wouldn't go away and why it "felt" bigger than normal. This is definitely an improvement because he used to attribute his level of arousal to the smell of "musk" which was actually the copulins he would smell every time.

So them cream is definitely a keeper. Rather than hitting hard and fast, it seems to diffuses even, slow building sort of way.


Copulins = good
(08-16-2012 9:28 AM)Shelly B Wrote:  "Baby. Say what you will. I've been around you with and without copulins for years. You never know when I have them on and when I don't. And I can tell for an absolute fact - you are affected. Why there is no question - our sex life is great with - or without them - there is also no question - the hardness of your erection is enhanced by copulins. Copulins are for an absolute fact "“ not bull shit."

Silence. Turns red. Sheepish look.....Grabs remote. Changes channel...
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09-13-2015 6:40 AM

So what are men's experiences of wearing copulins themselves?

Again, there seem to be positive effects on erectile function and sex drive.

Essence of Woman or True Essence = good
(03-14-2012 9:38 PM)eyeofra Wrote:  Wow. Holy shit. Omfg. Essence of a woman is TRUE Essence to the tenth. It projects a HUGE cloud and LASTS and LASTS. Oh, and whoever said it was better than porn was correct. How can this small glass vial arouse me so - but if for magic? Jeez if you ever doubted the effectiveness of 'mones sniff some copulins, then look down Rofl

Copulins make me have, a-typical dreams Laugh1 last night I put one drop of TRUE essence (because now I consider it mild) under my nose before bed. Heh. Well. Let's just say my dreams were interesting (but she denied me in the end LOL - a cockblocked dream)

Jeez, essence of a woman is POTENT. I can smell it sitting on my shelf from a few feet away.

I think I am going to dilute it in ethanol, 1/40th a drop per spray. Heh, I think copulins are one of those "effects are dependant on dosage" 'mones. So for my experiements on others I will start very small. I know they work on me lol.

I think it's interesting that EoaW lists ther actual fatty acids making up their copulin mix. And that the mix is entirely those oils, nothing diluting it that I can tell. TRUE must be equivalent to EoaW diluted in DPG.

Crazy. Fun. Educational. I can't wait to play with them more!

Essence of Woman = good
(03-14-2012 10:40 PM)gentlmentlemen Wrote:  But ya, I have to say, its pretty passionate and nutso. And it feels totally natural too, save for the strength hahaha. But it amazes me how quickly something like that can be caused by a feedback loop like this. If I had only described the speed and not the feelings that come with it, someone mighht think it was some unfeeling robo-boner like from a drug or something, but no, sniffing it is like entering into this erotic feeling, its heavenly.

Gotta be magic for sure though, I mean WOW. Its been months and it still never ceases to amaze.

I have to admit the morning wood can get pretty intense. Be forewarned if you haven't already had the problem if you umm... emptied your apple juice bottles the night before. Especially if it was applied to you, not somewhere near you. That's part of why I started applying it to the headboard, not my face. That and the fact that I found I got those type of effects far stronger if it was close to my face (pillow or headboard), but not actually diffusing from it. It would be interesting to see how different app points affect the dreams, because I found that anything like the headboard usually wound up with no actual sex during the dream, I just dreamed that I was next to a very sexy woman. But if I put it on the pillow...

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(07-23-2015 8:04 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  Secondly, want to outline my journey with Ascend and its cops. Though i see in forums that there are small amounts, i feel it has plenty of effect specifically if that amount is anything higher than when it is found inside natural sources. It could also be the Androstenone in Ascend, but if i am correct it has more Androsterone in it. The effects of Androsterone, and dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate I'm sure have some effect on T production, as well as copulins which i am sure is the main factor that causes T levels to rise after sex, which are otherwise absent in self stimulation. I used Ascend on my upper lip after waking up for about a week masturbating each evening, and also applied Ascend a few hours before bed in a separate experiment. I also did the same thing without the cops and i didnt nptice much, however i did notice an increase in the frequency of morning wood. Also it felt like i was hornier both upon waking up and throughout the day when i applied Ascend, not crazy horny, just more aroused than usual or when not applied. One thing i did notice with Ascend was that every day use caused by body to produce acne mostly on my shoulders and back, but this was after about 3 weeks of daily wear and this was also after morning and afternoon wear (hot climate here so had to reapply on days i was out). Diet was the same throught the whole time which mostly consisted of beans and eggs in the morning with scattered PB&Js here and there and meat of various kinds to include white meat and red meat in the evenings for dinner. My conclusion is that the copulins helped a bit in some way to elevate my testosterone levels.


Max T-15 (+pherocide) = good
(01-25-2014 7:52 PM)right_mr Wrote:  Day 3
Following an excellent day 2 I got home late and slept at around 12.30 am. As usual with pherocide and Max T-Boner I woke up with a painful stiffy at like 4.30am so wasn't feeling my sharpest.

Max T-150 = good
(05-28-2015 1:12 PM)Pharaoh-moans Wrote:  Just got my first LAL shipment today. I applied some max t-140 under my nose as soon as I got in the car. I just got home after going for a drive.

First impressions bullet points (note these reactions were fairly subtle, not raging):
-very tolerable smell, I heard cops stink bad but Gary seems to have masked it very well.
-after a couple minutes I started paying more attention to women walking on the sidewalks.
- I was even checking out what I would consider 6/10s
-had a semi erection at one instance.
-maintained eye contact with one girl who was walking downtown, I never do that while driving. I attribute it to a combination of placebo and perhaps increased test (thus increased signaling by me).

Going to run with this at the gym and see how it goes.

Max T-150 = good
(05-24-2015 4:18 PM)Alphonse Wrote:  From personal experience, max t-150 makes me feel relaxed and seems to cause me to breathe more deeply. The effects are pretty subtle until it heats up (an intense workout for example), then it causes horniness and almost painful morning wood unless it is washed off with more than just soap. I don't notice any increased arousal unless I'm working out or having sex.

Desire me oil, Primitive = good, Max-T, Voodoo = neutral
(05-22-2015 2:24 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  I haven't gotten much horniness at all from Voodoo, but there's not much of those effects in MAX T either. Desire Me on the other hand always gets me revved up - Primitive (not DP) to some extent too.
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