Post: #21

Loving this thread

I received my lightly used bottle of AM from Futureman last night and wore 2 sprays on my forearms today and a constant erection anytime I was sitting down. I knew AM was a sexual alpha blend but I was not expecting the viagra-like self effects at all

Post: #22

(09-13-2015 6:14 PM)Samus Wrote:  Loving this thread

I received my lightly used bottle of AM from Futureman last night and wore 2 sprays on my forearms today and a constant erection anytime I was sitting down. I knew AM was a sexual alpha blend but I was not expecting the viagra-like self effects at all

Haha! Interesting. What were the self-effects more generally? Did it make you feel more confident/calm/euphoric? Did it reduce/change internal self-talk e.g. reduce negative self-talk?

Post: #23

AM is my #1 pheromone. An oldie but a goodie!

Post: #24

(09-13-2015 12:31 PM)Mr. E Wrote:  Great thread Ancillian! Thanks for doing the work. I wanted to give you 2 rep points for it but for some reason I can give one max... Anyone happen to know how you can give more than one? I've received +3 myself so I know it is possible.

Anyway, back on topic. I have experience with BW, VD, AV and OD (OD not a lot yet, it's the only one I have yet to test for a longer period of time). Only VD made me more open beyond my regular taste in women. It made me attracted to women I normally wouldn't be very interested in. This effect was temporary though.

MAX-T-150 did give me a very noticeable boost in libido and increase in erections. I'm on anti-depressants, which are libido-killers. So it was a refreshing effect that I was very happy with. Unfortunately wearing cops didn't work out very well for me when it came to the effects on women, so I threw them out. And then it took me a while to realize that I could simply use it under my nose at night. Sometimes I do before I think...

So yes, MAX-T-150 definitely had an effect on me. And the effects correlated exactly with the period during which I used them, with no other factors changing (like a switch in the blend I was testing, it was while I was using BW the whole time).

Thanks for the info, and the reps!

I think the number of reps you can give depends on your own rep count - the more you have the more you can give per post or something like that.

The results you got with Max T are definitely in line with findings so far.

Do you think the AV, VD, BW or OD have had any effect on erectile function as far as you can tell - or was it boner business as usual? And you mention that the VD made you open to a greater range of women - is that because you felt horny more generally, so something else?

Post: #25

(09-13-2015 10:57 AM)cali4ya858 Wrote:  There could be factors to negate the effects of pheromones effecting erections

I use 3-4 sprays with my 50mL Alpha Dream products almost everyday and I have to resist myself throughout the day trying not to be sexual as I am. (I am 25 years old and ambitious yet my sex drive distracts me too much). Working out and healthy diet, etc can improve erectile function.

conclusion: Pheromones may effect erection but life factors can negate the effects. (e.g. exercise, supplements, diet, psychology)

Yes, there will certainly be other factors involved too - but that's for another thread.

Which Alpha Dream products are you using?

Post: #26

(09-14-2015 6:38 AM)Ancillian Wrote:  Thanks for the info, and the reps!

I think the number of reps you can give depends on your own rep count - the more you have the more you can give per post or something like that.

The results you got with Max T are definitely in line with findings so far.

Do you think the AV, VD, BW or OD have had any effect on erectile function as far as you can tell - or was it boner business as usual? And you mention that the VD made you open to a greater range of women - is that because you felt horny more generally, so something else?

AV, VD, BW or OD didn't have any effect on erectile function. It was as usual. Regarding the VD, it wasn't that I felt more horny and then found more women attractive. It was the other way around, I found more women attractive and as a result felt more horny. But fortunately that was temporary. It didn't feel good to me to be attracted to women I normally wouldn't be attracted to.

MAX-T-150 was the only product that caused a noticeable increase in libido and erections.

Post: #27

Both copulins and heavy alpha blends will cause an increase in Testosterone levels however they differ fundamentally. Copulins are biologically designed to make you horny so they act specifically on libido, raising T levels as much as 50% in some testing. However reaction to an alpha blend is more complicated. While it can raise T levels it has a lot of other potential effects since it's triggering a fight or flight response. So cortisol and other hormone levels will spike as well as systemic inflammation (sore neck, headache etc.).

Overtime alpha blends will tend to make you "man up' as your system responds to ongoing stimulus of other alpha males constantly around you however it might also raise other hormone levels as well that are counter productive. That's why result with just cops (T150, desire me etc.) are more pronounced and consistent...

The real question/concern is which pheromones will trigger higher estrogen (and similar hormone) levels that lower libido and T level's...

Post: #28

(09-14-2015 9:18 AM)DWR Wrote:  Both copulins and heavy alpha blends will cause an increase in Testosterone levels however they differ fundamentally. Copulins are biologically designed to make you horny so they act specifically on libido, raising T levels as much as 50% in some testing. However reaction to an alpha blend is more complicated. While it can raise T levels it has a lot of other potential effects since it's triggering a fight or flight response. So cortisol and other hormone levels will spike as well as systemic inflammation (sore neck, headache etc.).

Overtime alpha blends will tend to make you "man up' as your system responds to ongoing stimulus of other alpha males constantly around you however it might also raise other hormone levels as well that are counter productive. That's why result with just cops (T150, desire me etc.) are more pronounced and consistent...

The real question/concern is which pheromones will trigger higher estrogen (and similar hormone) levels that lower libido and T level's...

I think you're right on the copulins, but the jury is still out for me on how the alpha mixes might be working.

Fight/flight activation is one possibility, but I can think of others.

Some molecules may serve to enhance male bonding and decrease stress/improve mood when they are present. Given stress can hammer testosterone, it's possible stress alleviation can boost it (if the individual is already stressed).

Another possibility is that is simple association - these are the molecules given off by our bodies at times of victory/elation - and they reactivate that state via conditioning.

Then there's the possibility of being part of a complex homeostasis. If our bodies give off androstadienone which depresses us/lowers testosterone, then there might be something else that pushes in the opposite direction, elevating mood/testosterone, to balance things out and ensure we're not all eunuchs on the verge of suicide! Applying these molecules artificially might unbalance the system - either positively or negatively.

There are so many possibilities here and I don't think we're yet in a position which theory is right. I might get some hormonal analysis done on myself at some point to give a better idea.

As for estrogen, anything that increases our testosterone will almost certainly boost estrogen too (which isn't a problem in and of itself so long as the ratios remain the same). In men we make make testosterone by first Gnrh release (which can be influenced by pheromones) which stimulates Lutenising Hormone, which in turn stimulates testosterone production in the testes.

Estrogen is produced from our testosterone via the aromatase enzyme, which it's hard to see how pheromones would affect aromatase action - given I've never come across evidence showing it can be psychologically influenced in men in the same way that testosterone can. I think we just need to down regulate aromatase by reducing body fat (which is where most aromatase is based) and through dietary/supplemental means.

I suspect the cases of high estrogen referred to here are actually low testosterone (fat gain, weak erections, beta behaviour etc). However, there are so many unknowns here I could be wrong.

Post: #29

Just recently getting into the estrogen thing; and am currently awaiting for my bottle of DIM to come in. From what I've read, DIM seems to be the top natural route. We shall see.

Anybody have anything different as for controlling/lowering estrogen?

Thanks!

Post: #30

(09-15-2015 7:04 AM)MMM Wrote:  Just recently getting into the estrogen thing; and am currently awaiting for my bottle of DIM to come in. From what I've read, DIM seems to be the top natural route. We shall see.

Anybody have anything different as for controlling/lowering estrogen?

Thanks!

There are a few supplemental routes, but the biggest natural lever you can pull is lowering your body fat percentage. Body fat is where aromatase lives!