Post: #11

Next up... male products that have reports of negative effects on male erectile function.

It seems that products with androstadienone seem bad, also EST and MEO-NONE. The "True Love" product contains all of these! Nude Alpha may also have detrimental effects.

Crush XS = bad

(07-29-2013 9:02 PM)Mars82 Wrote:  CrushXS Version B First Run

Today, I'm running the CrushXS custom blend. It came in 2 versions. According to Ryusei and Steve, the first one (Version A) contains Androstadienone and nols, while Version B contains Androstadienone and Bliss molecules.

I put on 1.5 sprays and waited for the self effects. I noticed none even 30 minutes after application. However, during the drive to work, I belatedly noted that I wasn't singing along to the music on the radio. I tried to think of some sensual scenes to see if I could get an erection (like Evolve), but I didn't get any.

Androstadienone = bad

(07-09-2014 8:32 AM)xtraspecial Wrote:  I have to be VERY careful with Androstadienone , as it turns me into a woman. I get all cuddly and loving with it on, and also prevents me from getting an erection. I'm also talking a higher dose, maybe 40mcg+, but I am nonetheless sensitive.

Est and/or Androstadienone = bad

(09-12-2015 4:12 PM)dsouza Wrote:  EST and Androstadienone often do this to me... I can get away with Androstadienone in AM for some reason without depression... Must be the balancing pheromones and molecules. In alpha blends Androstadienone usually gets to me. (read : most blends with low none).

dsouza

True Love = bad

(09-16-2014 6:39 AM)Fishdude Wrote:  Spray on clothes is best. Love the TL and have more on order.

I used like a fiend for two mos, applied to skin, both oil and spray.

Gained some weight and after that two month use I could barely maintain an erection . Lasted for 6 weeks.

Stuff may increase estrogen in ones body. Other posters,lebronjames et al, have posted same.

True Love = bad

(04-12-2012 4:47 PM)Fishdude Wrote:  After using TL 3 drops for 3 mos most every work day I lost my sex drive and it was difficult to maintain an erection for a month after. Not Kidding!

True Love = bad

(09-16-2014 10:24 AM)toutsif Wrote:  TL doesn't ave me any worthy result with women. the only work i saw clearly from it, its the weight gain, alot of beta behaviour, and the feminine side effects, and i mean no erections at all! finally, what's the point to seduce a woman if you can't have sex with her?? no more TL for me. Period

Androstadienone = bad

(04-29-2015 6:34 PM)Paradox Wrote:  Androstadienone in low doses (esp below 40 mcg's) is known to cause a loss of libido in some men.

The chief scientist (M Harris) of Androtics observed this and posted about it in the Androtics forum.

Methoxyestratetraenone = bad

(09-12-2015 3:38 PM)Fishdude Wrote:  At 52 I can have sex 6 times per day! Yes it's a burden! But Methoxyestratetraenone will make you limp

Nude Alpha and/or androstadienone = bad

(03-14-2015 12:36 PM)eibmoz Wrote:  I find NA hurts my sexual performance, maintaining erection..Androstadienone also does this to me.

AM, Primitive = good, NA = bad. Core = ?

(12-06-2014 10:40 PM)dsouza Wrote:  BTW I had sex with my steady tonight.. Second time I did it with core na and then added a drop of primitive for the kick.

The sex left me without drive most of the time.. I had to fight just to maintain a soft erection.

I don't know why NA core always does this even with P.

With Am my sex drive ramps up and sexual thoughts abound.. With na core all I feel like doing is bonding and talking. Even when I have sex my mind drifts off.

Strangely 3 weeks ago when I was constantly using Am or P alone for sex my erection was rock solid and huge throughout and I came.

The last 2 na core P sex sessions I couldn't even cum.. Both times. I had to have my partner manually stimulate me till I came after I gave up on coming.. Mostly due to flaccid erection and no sexual desire.

Pheromone related or coincidence? You decide!

AM, New Pheromone Additive and OD = good – Wolf, L2K, androstadienone = bad

(09-04-2015 5:25 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Am does it for me as it ages so does New Pheromone Additive. So does OD but I stopped using it.

Est products like wolf and l2k often leave me sexually weak.

Too much Androstadienone without buffered none will do the same.

These guys getting tremendous horniness with est products probably have extremely high levels of test.

Androstadienone = bad

(07-12-2014 4:36 AM)dsouza Wrote:  last time I wore na Androstadienone I wore 20 mcg Androstadienone and couldn't even get an erection with my gf.. It made me into a pussy who just wanted to cuddle kiss and talk, and I turned down any lustful initiations from my gf.

Post: #12

What products/ingredients have ambiguous effects?

Some reports that TAC improves erectile function, some that it worsens.
Ambiguous results also come from New Pheromone Additive and L2K.

TAC and Chikara both bad, Scent of Eros neutral

(09-04-2015 5:47 PM)Ancillian Wrote:  Recently I wore 10mcg of TAC alongside 12 inches of Scent of Eros . I lost my erection during foreplay and simply could not regain it. It's been 5-6 years since that last happened - and wearing Scent of Eros alone had not previously caused problems of that nature.

I also had a negative experience with Chikara even further back.

TAC = neutral/bad

(05-11-2014 4:17 PM)Phya Wrote:  As for self-effects, some guys have mentioned difficulty getting/maintaining an erection with TAC . I didn't experience anything like that, but I also applied it away from my usual spots (neck, chest), just to be safe. I did, however, feel that it was harder for me to reach orgasm.

TAC = good, P79 = bad?

(05-11-2014 5:39 PM)Blade Wrote:  Yep TAC is some good shit in the bedroom, I have never had a problem maintaing an erection while using it, in fact quite the opposite, I find it gets me over excited if you know what I mean, so I tend to stick with about 10-15mcg. I would seriously recommend adding in 30mcg of p83 and 2-3 sprays of Turn Up The Heat and watch the sparks fly.

Oh and P79 in the bedroom was absolutely awful for me tried it a few times between 5-20mcg and for some strange reason the sex was really awful, it just totally sucked the passion out of it completely.

L2L v1 = good (but note the same user negatively referenced this product in other threads)

(07-07-2014 8:55 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Get this.. Just last week I wore l2k v1. Not only did I have LUSTFUL thoughts for women in general, but WITHOUT any Cialis in my blood by the 8 hr mark of l2k on my skin I hard an iron hard erection that lasted 3 hrs , and I couldn't even fall asleep that night.

Old New Pheromone Additive = good, but not new New Pheromone Additive

(10-20-2014 3:57 AM)leon333 Wrote:  this is some potent stuff im telling you.oh yeah it turned me into a horny bastard,i mean REAL horny.this is the same horniness when I first apply OLD New Pheromone Additive.first impression is really good.love the self effect and the boner.i can tell this formula is still very strong.will test it on the ladies and give you guys more info later

ps.raw New Pheromone Additive and diluted New Pheromone Additive are 2 different beasts.undiluted hit harder,super animalistic sexual,self effect is strong plus you get a massive boner.but it's very edgy and repel alot of women.because it's a concentrate so it stink,not to mention the sudden breakdown and the stench intensify.diluted New Pheromone Additive still hit very hard,but not as strong like the concentrate.it's abit less edgy,little to no self effect(the raw stuff make you feel like you run the place)and no boner.so yeah everything decrease but trust me it's still very sexual and manageable.plus diluting New Pheromone Additive will decrease the awful stench of the concentrate

New Pheromone Additive = good

(07-10-2014 2:22 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Welcome New Pheromone Additive.. Whenever I used to wear it years ago it always made me and other horny as hell.

I'll add that my own experience with old New Pheromone Additive is at best neutral, if I was inclined to give it any rating on my erectile function it would be negative.

Post: #13

What other non-cops products work well for men...

(I'm assuming most of these are non-cops, but apologies if I'm getting things wrong)

AM

(09-12-2015 4:14 PM)cali4ya858 Wrote:  Alpha blends gives alot of erections for me like AM.

AM (+ glace) = good

(03-15-2014 1:05 PM)Zeky Wrote:  yeah l can feel yu bro.
Just today been rocking this mix @ home. Am calm like a motherfucker with this on bt am reckless with words. Not only that. l find myself "jerky' kind of with the way l carry myself though. And man l have a raging boner with this on and want to go hunting.. This with only 1 spray and 4 sprays of glace.l thot the glace was gonna smooth out the edges lol

AV, AT or THU

(09-04-2015 4:34 PM)Samus Wrote:  I have noticed that anytime I wear AV, AT or THU I get almost an immediate erection and will continually get them for as long as I have the product on.

The recharge time between uses is also drastically reduced.

(09-04-2015 8:52 PM)Samus Wrote:  AT is pretty instant, AT is like an all day flush and THU is like as soon as I need it, it's there. Even if it was just there a few minutes ago

Turn Up The Heat = good

(02-10-2014 5:17 AM)dsouza Wrote:  The self effects of increased horniness, increased test, and bigger harder erection was quite evident.. I didn't like the increased acne. Also got increased hair growth all over my body and deeper baser voice.

OD = good.

(08-17-2014 9:10 PM)dsouza Wrote:  EDIT: 10 pm. OD AM aftermath.


This just in.. one of my targets returned my call today and we chatted on the phone. She mentioned being busy with meetings and seeing her boyfriend on the weekend. Well you would think that is the end of things right.. Well it is kinda.

BUT although she mentioned the BF it didn't deter me from talking to her and telling her When I WANT to meet her, and that WE need to converse and hangout not just when its about business. Now I know she cant smell OD on the PHONE but I sure can REACT to her with remnants of OD still on me now at 10 pm in a CHALLENGING way.. With AM I would of not given pursuing her a second thought but with OD still on me, after getting off the phone with her I am left with a HUGE massive erection that wont go away and the sexual components of OD kicking in.. I am also left with a DRIVE to compete with her boyfriend and act like he is nothing.. I have no negative self talk.. He is but a challenge.. I will get into her panties by slowly getting into her life. I see her on Wed .. She told me she will keep my time slot free for me, and also she wants to talk more on the phone. I am having no doubts I will tease her to the point where ill soak her and fuck her. Now clearly this must be OD.. AM never makes me feel this way.

It is a given then.. For the last 5 hrs I saw no sexual umph from OD then after the PHONE call with this woman at 10 pm I am left with a raging sex drive and no self doubt. It means ods self effects are still working for me even 5 hrs after its been washed off. I must of absorbed quite a bit through my skin and soap or no soap it didn't take it all off.

I am going in with half pump OD Wed at 9-10 am or so, Washing it off by 3 pm and wearing 2 sprays AM at 3 PM.. Meeting her at 4:30. I am counting for the sexuals of OD to kick in 8 hrs after I wear it when I meet her.. Sexuals and undying will to compete alongside AM for attraction.

I didn't believe in OD as a good challenge mone, and negative self doubt eliminator until tonight when the effects are obvious.

OD STAYS in my arsenal

Perfect Match = good (due to DHEAS?)

(12-19-2013 7:44 AM)leon333 Wrote:  love potion ain't popular with the guys around here,but let me tell you folks PERFECT MATCH is just a lovely blend for all the guys that prefer a crushy bf material standalone.it's similar to Xist,but with PM it come with a bonus.which is self effect.it's a heavy DHEAS formula,you feel happy and just doesn't give a fark.also it's an imprinting product,they will remember you and happy to see you.oh yeah I also get a boner with this on,DHEAS can do this without Androstenone.there's no Androstenone in this formula,but according to the women forum at love potion this juice rev their motor but at the same time very romantic and clingy.im a fan of standalones and this potion is a must have..oh btw love potion fragrance oils mask the stench of mones very well

Evolve, DP, New Pheromone Additive, IMPI = good, Wolf = neutral

(05-02-2015 9:12 AM)JetDude Wrote:  I'm new to 'mones but almost without exception everything I have tried makes me more horny! IMPI, Evolve, DP, New Pheromone Additive. Although Wolf hasn't had that effect so much.

Post: #14

So what is the general pattern emerging:

- Cops seem good for erectile function whether worn by men or the women they are close to.
- Alpha products with high 'none also seem positive.
- Androstadienone, Est, and Meo-none seem negative.
- Products like New Pheromone Additive which include 'none and androstadienone produce ambiguous results.
- Products like TAC, which may have disinhibition qualities produce ambiguous results.

And I'll add one more of my own experiences - Evolve XS seems to produce neutral results. This contains 'none and EST.

Post: #15

(09-13-2015 7:12 AM)Ancillian Wrote:  So what is the general pattern emerging:

- Cops seem good for erectile function whether worn by men or the women they are close to.
- Alpha products with high 'none also seem positive.
- Androstadienone, Est, and Meo-none seem negative.
- Products like New Pheromone Additive which include 'none and androstadienone produce ambiguous results.
- Products like TAC, which may have disinhibition qualities produce ambiguous results.

And I'll add one more of my own experiences - Evolve XS seems to produce neutral results. This contains 'none and EST.

Very good research with posts backing up your claims.

I agree cops or heavy none products like am awaken my sex drive. I used to use OD and desire me but the acne was repulsive I stopped. Now am does the job without real breakouts.

Post: #16

Great thread, reps to you...

I've worn both Xist and GOA in combination for about a year (?). Primarily BW (2-3 drops/Xist 1 or 2 sprays) but for the last few months mostly GOA with AT or occasionally captain. Normally I'm a walking hard one but have had a few issues with regard to erection quality or loss of libido in the last month. This coincides with heavy GOA use at 2 and occasionally 3 drops.

Love the mix but after reading this I'm going on a SOB/DP purge of my system...nothing squishy till I'm not

Post: #17

There could be factors to negate the effects of pheromones effecting erections

I use 3-4 sprays with my 50mL Alpha Dream products almost everyday and I have to resist myself throughout the day trying not to be sexual as I am. (I am 25 years old and ambitious yet my sex drive distracts me too much). Working out and healthy diet, etc can improve erectile function.

conclusion: Pheromones may effect erection but life factors can negate the effects. (e.g. exercise, supplements, diet, psychology)

Post: #18

(09-13-2015 10:42 AM)DWR Wrote:  Great thread, reps to you...

I've worn both Xist and GOA in combination for about a year (?). Primarily BW (2-3 drops/Xist 1 or 2 sprays) but for the last few months mostly GOA with AT or occasionally captain. Normally I'm a walking hard one but have had a few issues with regard to erection quality or loss of libido in the last month. This coincides with heavy GOA use at 2 and occasionally 3 drops.

Love the mix but after reading this I'm going on a SOB/DP purge of my system...nothing squishy till I'm not

Thanks!

Since GOA is androstadienone-heavy, that would make sense. Let's see whether theory works when you drop it. Would love to hear the results!

Post: #19

(09-13-2015 10:42 AM)DWR Wrote:  Great thread, reps to you...

I've worn both Xist and GOA in combination for about a year (?). Primarily BW (2-3 drops/Xist 1 or 2 sprays) but for the last few months mostly GOA with AT or occasionally captain. Normally I'm a walking hard one but have had a few issues with regard to erection quality or loss of libido in the last month. This coincides with heavy GOA use at 2 and occasionally 3 drops.

Love the mix but after reading this I'm going on a SOB/DP purge of my system...nothing squishy till I'm not

Oh my! Glad I peeped in here! I haven't seen a morning erection in over a month, and I, too, have been using GOA at 3 drops daily. I thought age and/or diabetes was at fault, until now. I'm gonna shelf GOA for a while, and see what happens! I'll take wood over GOA any day of the week that ends in 'Y!' Hope that's it!

To be continued ...

Post: #20

Great thread Ancillian! Thanks for doing the work. I wanted to give you 2 rep points for it but for some reason I can give one max... Anyone happen to know how you can give more than one? I've received +3 myself so I know it is possible.

Anyway, back on topic. I have experience with BW, VD, AV and OD (OD not a lot yet, it's the only one I have yet to test for a longer period of time). Only VD made me more open beyond my regular taste in women. It made me attracted to women I normally wouldn't be very interested in. This effect was temporary though.

MAX-T-150 did give me a very noticeable boost in libido and increase in erections. I'm on anti-depressants, which are libido-killers. So it was a refreshing effect that I was very happy with. Unfortunately wearing cops didn't work out very well for me when it came to the effects on women, so I threw them out. And then it took me a while to realize that I could simply use it under my nose at night. Sometimes I do before I think...

So yes, MAX-T-150 definitely had an effect on me. And the effects correlated exactly with the period during which I used them, with no other factors changing (like a switch in the blend I was testing, it was while I was using BW the whole time).