Post: #1

hy all! im thinking about making my own mix but i have no idea how to do it
question#1 Where do i have to buy the materials to it?
such as: pure mones,dropper or spray glasses,the oil base,
question#2 What are the requirements of the setting? do it needs a lab to even begin? do i need glasses, gloves?
thank you!

Post: #2

Hey Triaz,

1) Pure nomes => From the pheromone companies that sell single molecules. (there's a few out there)
Droppers/sprayers etc

2) Lab => no
Glasses => If you don't have steady hands and are messy => yes, otherwise not needed
Gloves=> I would advise you use those unless you want to OD from stuff on your hands.

Here are a few threads that will help you get started:

http://pherotruth.com/Forum-Single-Molecules
http://pherotruth.com/Thread-Page-394-A-...-molecules
http://pherotruth.com/Thread-The-Poor-Ma...ngredients


Cheers,

Buzzy

Post: #3

awesome! thank you buzzy!
but what about the oil? i live in hungary so i need some oil base to put the pheromones in. thanks!

Post: #4

Well the base of your product will be determined by what you put in it. So if the single molecule pheromones are sold in an alcohol base, you should make an alcohol based solution.

I don't know if there's single molecules out there in oil base, but I know alpha dream sells Crystalline Compound of their molecules. I'm not expert, but i think if you want to make an oil based product you should start by getting the single molecules you want in Crystalline Compound and disolve them into an oil.

I'm not sure what kind of oil you can use as a base..

cheers,

Buzzy

Post: #5

(03-19-2013 12:21 PM)Buzzy78 Wrote:  Well the base of your product will be determined by what you put in it. So if the single molecule pheromones are sold in an alcohol base, you should make an alcohol based solution.

I don't know if there's single molecules out there in oil base, but I know alpha dream sells Crystalline Compound of their molecules. I'm not expert, but i think if you want to make an oil based product you should start by getting the single molecules you want in Crystalline Compound and disolve them into an oil.

I'm not sure what kind of oil you can use as a base..

cheers,

Buzzy

I've had some issues dissolving the crystals. Admittedly, I was trying to dissolve them in vodka...

There's been some suggestion that working with the pure crystals is slightly more hazardous and might require protective equipment. The stuff won't kill you, but there is more reason to be careful.

Mones dissolved in alcohol are a lot easier to measure out and serial dilute since 1 drop = 1/20th of a ml.

Alpha dream and love scent both sell mones. Androtics Direct and True Pheromones also do, but I think their prices are usually higher. And a few mones (DHEA and pregnenolone, for instance) are available as supplements for dirt cheap.

If you want to play with Oxytocin, that's sold on Amazon.

Post: #6

oxitocin? can that thing even fly? i heard its too heavy.
also,can i dissolve the crystals in pure alcohol? since you said vodka.

Post: #7

oxitocin? can that thing even fly? i heard its too heavy.
also,can i dissolve the crystals in pure alcohol? since you said vodka.
.......mone CRYSTALS.......wow

Post: #8

(03-19-2013 5:36 PM)triaz Wrote:  oxitocin? can that thing even fly? i heard its too heavy.

I wondered the same thing. But I've gotten definite effects from spraying it on a pad (to control for possible skin absorption.) Other people have seen effects from spraying it on nearby objects. So I'd say "yes, it can certainly fly."

(03-19-2013 5:36 PM)triaz Wrote:  also,can i dissolve the crystals in pure alcohol? since you said vodka.

Yes, often when you buy mones they're dissolved in pure alcohol. I use vodka because perfumer's alcohol is expensive (and pure alcohol is illegal where I live.)

If you dissolve mones in pure alcohol you'll need to mix in a good fixative to keep some of them from evaporating too rapidly. Many people use monolaurin or Di-propylene Glycol (DPG) since they're convenient, but other substances will work as well.

Post: #9

thank you wiserd!
since you were already messing around with cristalline can you describe me how this process looks like? i mean i dont know what to put where and how much,...nothing.
a picture will be the best description to this, if you will.not forcing it or anyhing

Post: #10

(03-19-2013 6:02 PM)triaz Wrote:  thank you wiserd!
since you were already messing around with cristalline can you describe me how this process looks like? i mean i dont know what to put where and how much,...nothing.
a picture will be the best description to this, if you will.not forcing it or anyhing

I've bought crystal mones exactly once. There was a feather-dusting of androstadienone crystals (50mg, which is a LOT of androstadienone, but not a lot of actual material) at the bottom of a tiny vial. I don't know where the vial is now. I filled the vial with alcohol, but the crystals weren't dissolved in the alcohol several days later. Maybe I could have added a drop of polysorbate 80 or just let it sit longer. But I didn't. In any case, the stuff is more diluted and entirely dissolved, now. If you're going to go that route, give the stuff plenty of time to dissolve. Shake it. Warm it with your hands.

Make sure you have a few bottles, so that you can do a serial dilution or two. In other words, you store the stuff as a concentrated solution and then add a few drops to a dropper bottle filled with alcohol when you want a bottle you can use. 50mg can make 2.5 large water bottles worth of mones. That's inconvenient. For some mones, a two-step serial dilution may even be best. Concentrate A is diluted to make concentrate B which is diluted to make something usable. For a few mones, you'll want something really diluted. I think my ready-to-use alpha-THDOC is at .0015mcg/drop. That's one of the most potent mones.

Good luck!