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Why Your Testosterone Levels are Lower Than You Think (and what to do about it)
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02-25-2015 8:24 PM

(02-25-2015 4:01 PM)lifeisgood7 Wrote:  i would at least implore everyone to get there blood levels checked!

whats funny, there has been numerous medical studies stating testerone makes you more RELAXED...as an alpha male should be

I don't know if this is completely true.. When I do bwe I don't get enraged but as soon as I do a whole body weight workout with even 20 lb dumbells I end up short tempered and angry and irritable. If its not higher test what is it?

I also think most people who do a lot of weight training and living with all kinds of injuries that act up later in life (post 35 y.o).. thus the aggression could be due to pain and discomfort not really higher test levels. The aggression could also be due to increased BP after weights.

BWE don't have the same effect of increasing BP as much as weights.

Anyways some men have high test levels and don't get angry but just want to fuck some hot girls, and other men who have high levels have a drink of alcohol and want to take a gun to someones head.

Go figure.

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02-25-2015 10:15 PM

(02-25-2015 6:09 PM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  This isn't complicated. If your feeling down get a blood test done. Find out what your levels are and proceed from there. Exercise, clean up your diet, and get some sleep.

exactly

Consistency is GOD-LIKE: It is the separation between mediocre and Greatness.

Alphas do not masturbate!!!

Consistency is the mother of all skills!

Just remain consistent with your affirmations and don't be needy for the outcome. Desire it and want it, but don't become needy. Have patience and everything you dream will come true.

Others begin to look for the shortcut but on the road to greatness there exists only consistency.

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02-26-2015 4:07 PM

Over a period of time, all men lose Testosterone to the point of needing TRT to keep or maintain wood...... If you don't maintain it your gf or wife will look for a younger man....


(02-12-2015 3:54 PM)lifeisgood7 Wrote:  GO HERE:


read it once. then read it again.
then...
share what you think.....
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02-26-2015 4:23 PM

(02-26-2015 4:07 PM)musikinnovator Wrote:  Over a period of time, all men lose Testosterone to the point of needing TRT to keep or maintain wood...... If you don't maintain it your gf or wife will look for a younger man....

This is EXACTLY what I mean by fear-mongering. NO-Problem - Reaction - Solution. Thank you for proving my point.

It is paranoia like this that the pharmaceutical industry markets to, and makes $$TEXAS$$ in the process.

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02-26-2015 4:46 PM

You nailed it...

(02-12-2015 4:15 PM)kimosabe Wrote:  Agree with the "low testosterone" premise, what with all the toxic chemicals and GMO bullshit that's going around these days.

Disagree with the methodology to combat the issue - the article is written to push synthetic test. There are other ways of upping T-levels without having to shoot/slather oneself up with pharmaceuticals.

Given my track record with prescription pharmaceuticals that do absolutely jack-shit at solving root problems and merely treat (and gradually worsen) symptoms, you can understand why I now avoid them as much as possible.
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02-26-2015 4:54 PM

Good knowledge.... The whole TRT scares the !@#t out of me but you don't have a lot of options if you are dealing with Dr's and healthcare.... How can you get the right care when the ppl assigned to do it are benefiting from TRT...... I'm curious about the Clomid and d-aspartic acid.... Knowledge is key though....

(02-12-2015 4:58 PM)RTBoss Wrote:  An alternative pharmaceutical route, with far less or no side effects, than traditional TRT is Clomid, or clomiphene citrate, at a small dose of 25 mg/day. Minimal to no side effects documented and normalized test levels.

In the supplement arena, d-aspartic acid is worth checking out.
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02-26-2015 5:03 PM

Good Post

(02-25-2015 5:21 PM)kimosabe Wrote:  And like Pheroman said, that site is mainly an advertisement.

There is a way to find out if one truly requires TRT. It is toward the end of my last post -
No need to pre-emptively run to a doctor(NO-Problem - Reaction - Solution) is what I'm saying.
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02-26-2015 7:34 PM

I'm on TRT.. Since age 17 I always had test problems. Extremely low below the lowest normal level. Trying some tribulus etc helped a little but never really solved the problem. Now on androgel for 1 year I feel on top of the world. Easier building muscle, having sex regularly (though with Cialis still), and better mental health (less depression). Also I can wear Androstadienone products more liberally.

For some men it may be a waste and unnecessary but for me it is the only solution that worked.. I tried all kinds of natural test boosting herbs and products.. Most results were short lived.

For 1 year now my balls have been shut down completely.. I only ejaculate clear liquid.. But test levels are in mid range for my age group.

I don't recommend you all go out and get some androgel.. Like I said my problem existed my whole life , not just in middle age.

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02-27-2015 12:52 AM

(02-26-2015 4:23 PM)kimosabe Wrote:  This is EXACTLY what I mean by fear-mongering. NO-Problem - Reaction - Solution. Thank you for proving my point.

It is paranoia like this that the pharmaceutical industry markets to, and makes $$TEXAS$$ in the process.

Is it really just fear-mongering and a no-problem to say that low test levels and the attached erectile dysfunction and the beta-behave are dangerous for a relationship?
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02-27-2015 2:36 AM

It is, to sell TRT advertised on ^^^that^^^ basis, YES.

I'll give you a prime example of this - a few months ago, after his regular checkup, my father was told that he has an above-90% risk of heart-attack.

On its own, those are shocking numbers... until you ask the million dollar question - "how old is your father?"

80.

Look at what I said in context.

I'm NOT saying that there isn't a place for TRT. There is. Dsouza has offered himself up as a prime example of this while saying "I don't recommend you all go out and get some androgel.. Like I said my problem existed my whole life , not just in middle age."

However, the MAJORITY of men who experience lowered test levels can actually do something about it by
(1) changing their diet and controlling what they put into their bodies,
(2) supplementing with herbs that promote test and control est, and
(3) engaging in a fulfilling exercise routine at least thrice a week,
and not by just running to their doctor and getting TRT shots at the first feeling of downness.

You HAVE to admit that we live in a world where pharmaceuticals are being pushed hard on a daily basis as the answer to this and that.

Just turn on the TV, what do you see?

As I explained earlier, the Hegelian Dialectic is called, in common parlance, Problem - Reaction - Solution. Engineer a "problem", have people react to the "problem" with fear, and then offer them the "solution" to the problem that was engineered to garner fear in the first place.

The variant of this is NO-Problem - Reaction - Solution, i.e. talk about a "potential" problem that in reality doesn't actually exist, make people react with fear, then offer a "solution" to the non-existent "problem."

Ever wonder why the elite refer to the hoi polloi as "useless eaters" and "sheeple"?

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