Post: #31

Thank you for allowing me to test this molecule. I've had great fun with it and it is good to see consistent results from all your testers. That is very generous of you to allow us a bottle of your new product. Thank you! I cannot wait to see what masterpiece you've created with this.

Post: #32

Thanks again for the opportunity to test! It was fun!

Also, I sometimes take Astaxanthin as an anti-oxidant....Crazy shit.

Post: #33

Very weird science. I used to raise koi and this was an important supplement to bring out their best color. It explains the color of PT-A as well. I would never have believed this would act pheromonally and in such a dramatic way.

PLaytime is krill sauce

Post: #34

First of all thank you John for sponsoring and Mark for hosting this test. This is a true test because the testing group assembled here are some of the best testers in the community.

Thank you John for the generous gifts. Not only the gifts that you are giving us for participation but for the gift that you are giving the community. The gift of knowledge. Finally someone from the community has decided to enhance the community by sharing a groundbreaking discovery with the community.

Now on to the semi bad news…your summary reads a little like a puff piece rather than an analysis of the molecule. It drips of excitement. To me Astaxanthin acted most similar to Androstenone. It is a lot less primal than Androstenone. I’m not sure if it’s giving off a mating signal as much as it is giving off a “let’s be close” signal. It is attractive. It attracts women but is it a beautifier or is it a pure attractant or is it a focuser or a bit of both?

I think that Renny’s name of it “playtime” is pretty close to describing the molecules effects. While it is not a silly fun molecule, Molecule A is playtime with a purpose.

I didn’t get the nervous energy at less than 4 drops. I felt upset.

(02-09-2016 1:56 PM)Paradox Wrote:  This molecule does not fly well as it has no projection. For some reason this Molecules only works at a distance of 3-4 feet. I'm assuming that this molecule is heavy. Like Oxycontin heavy (1007.19 g/mol). I don't think that Molecule A is Oxy, I just think that it's heavy.

How is this for accuracy? During testing I said that Molecule A was heavy. Astaxanthin is a medium heavy molecule. It is twice as heavy as Alpha Androstenol and half as heavy as Oxytocin. I noticed that the projection was only 3-4 feet and Snoopyace noticed the same thing.

One question though. Is this a synthetic or natural production of astaxanthin? I’m just asking because the synthetic astaxanthin contains a mixture of stereoisomers.

Post: #35

Let me just add why moelcule A might be better than say Androstenone or Androstadienone to some (me at least)....Some attraction without the fear and plenty of comfort without the crash and depression....Plus the social aspect to both men and women.

So I think meo-nol/a-nol...Androstadienone ' / Androstenone light....And we have not even added it to other molecules yet.

Hell, it might buffer Androstenone or keep them closer so that they can enjoy the effects more.

Long story, short - The puff piece is close to the mark.

Post: #36

(02-29-2016 12:55 PM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  Let me just add why moelcule A might be better than say Androstenone or Androstadienone to some (me at least)....Some attraction without the fear and plenty of comfort without the crash and depression....Plus the social aspect to both men and women.

So I think meo-nol/a-nol...Androstadienone ' / Androstenone light....And we have not even added it to other molecules yet.

Hell, it might buffer Androstenone or keep them closer so that they can enjoy the effects more.

Long story, short - The puff piece is close to the mark.

Right. I agree with you "Androstenone light" is quite appropriate. Also, this quote should probably be added to the final description "Some attraction without the fear and plenty of comfort without the crash and depression...."

Post: #37

Why is this better than -Androstenone? Satisfaction -Androstenone works by creating a feeling in her that she needs sex. After the sex act the molecule remains and so the need remains...there may be a feeling of being sated momentarily, but the need remains. That's fine and can be a wonderful thing. Even better is a feeling of complete and utter satisfaction. Why? Because there have been very few times in her life that she has ever felt that way.

Following a PM conversation with Paradox about this molecule after the results were posted I did a comparison of playtime with New Pheromone Additive added and with a control (P78 the closest thing in my mind to playtime). Adding the -Androstenone cancelled out the complete satisfaction that comes from the playtime. There was still need despite exhaustion. The next day with the control my SO and I were left with the deep bonding that comes with complete satisfaction.

It's very difficult to explain, and the goals of a so called social/sexual mix are very different from a seduction/bonding mix...the very fact that it appears this molecule has a place in both is absolutely amazing.

And I'll just add my thanks here again for the opportunity to take part and for the open way in which bonadzz is going about sharing this with everyone...it's very much in keeping with the Pherotruth tradition.

Post: #38

Great discussion guys, thanks for the input. I can add to the final summary that it has attractant properties in a non-primal way like Androstenone. It seems to be in agreement with everyone. I like Paradox's description of "Some attraction without the fear and plenty of comfort without the crash and depression"

Paradox, you were definitely spot on with it being a heavier molecule, good job on calling that one. Also to answer your question, this Astaxanthin was naturally derived not synthetic.

Post: #39

Astaxanthin in the below research says it increases serotonin levels in the hippocampus, frontal cortex, striatum and hypothalamus. So we should see antidepressant effects on self and others when serotonin is low similar to effects from taking a SSRI antidepressant a bit.

Post: #40

(05-23-2017 3:02 PM)DataDragon Wrote:  Astaxanthin in the below research says it increases serotonin levels in the hippocampus, frontal cortex, striatum and hypothalamus. So we should see antidepressant effects on self and others when serotonin is low similar to effects from taking a SSRI antidepressant a bit.

Great point on Astaxanthin,
Now I am more eager to conti ue testing SWOON. I will definitely keep my eye out for those indicators you mentioned. The advantages of having those around you happy and realizing you are that source is what I am looking for with a social mone.