This kind of thread pisses me off to no end! But, I'm going to take the time to respond to some of the posts here anyway.
(04-26-2015 7:50 PM)theLaw Wrote: I would only take issue with one of your statements (may just be a clarification) :
"a) We know this to be false from numerous tests"
I am assuming that you are referring to pier-reviewed scientific testing on pheromones. The problem is that with these products we are not just talking about pheromones, but other unlisted chemicals as well. This is essentially the same problem with a substance like methamphetamine. Lab-grade pure Meth is not the same as the street drug, as we have no idea what is in the street drug (same problem we're currently having with "bath salts"). So we can't actually make any scientific claims about any vendor's products, as we don't know the actual ingredients. That leaves us with anecdotal experiences, which of course, is not science by any stretch. Scientific research on gluten is currently dealing with this same problem; correlation, but not causation.
I will take anecdotal evidence from actual users any goddamn day over peer reviewed scientific research! Personally, I don't give a rats ass what a bunch of scientists have to say if it flies in the face of what real people have experienced in real life situations, as compared to what lab controlled "peer reviewed" studies have to say.
(04-26-2015 8:23 PM)jjs1234 Wrote: I propose something and I hope that the forum ADMIN reads this:
I am an analytical thinker. Therefore, this forum needs a tool in which is sort of like a search tool. Not the TYPICAL search tool. I am talking when A USER POSTS A REVIEW, he/she ADDS all the things (without giving your anonymity away) like
- Height
- Weight
- Race
- AGE
- What you eat (more descriptive than Healthy/Non-healthy)
- How ACTIVE you are (workout/run/swim) etc.
- When was the last time you showered ect. (this matters if your body produces its own mones)...
- The TYPE of MOOD you were in when you applied/got a certain reaction etc. (this matters too!!!)
- Type of person who reacted to the mones
- Type of Mones/Name
- Was it a Sexual/Status/Beta/Dominant etc. Type of Pheromon
- Pheromone name
- The same bullet points above of the person you interacted with who HAD the reaction to the mones.
Read and rejected in it's entirely!
1. I seriously doubt many users would bother to fill in or check off all areas suggested, even if not at first but shortly thereafter.
2. Not one of the suggested descriptions can account for the actual differences in every actual human interaction.
3. Nobody has the same body chemistry, which in turn effects the reactions elicited from pheromones.
4. Individual moods can change minute by minute, and thereby change how we interact and others react to us just as rapidly.
5. pheromone testing is nothing like a lab controlled study, and no 2 situations will ever be exactly alike.
6. apply examples 1 through 5 to every intended target and testing/review report.
(04-26-2015 9:40 PM)metaltree Wrote: Hypothetical Examples to make a point
Hypothetical Example 1:
Let's take a good looking guy who is dominant but sucks at opening and doesn't get laid much because of that. A product such as Core might end up helping with that particular weakness and he will start getting laid a lot. On the other hand New Pheromone Additive might not do shit for him.
Hypothetical Example 2:
Let's take an average looking guy who is confident with chit chatting but has a demeanor that makes him come across as weak. For him New Pheromone Additive or Primal Instinct might get him laid a lot yet core might not help him at all.
Hypothetical Example 3:
Lets take a social guy who has physical sex appeal but comes across as low status and doesn't get laid at all because of that. Maybe core and New Pheromone Additive would do shit for him. Yet maybe Captain, A314, or Ascend would get him laid.
These are oversimplified examples but I don't think you are every going to find any products that come out ahead as far as getting guys laid. Each guy has his own needs so picking the correct product to get laid is a very individual thing.
Great points and partially reinforces what I said above.
(04-26-2015 10:04 PM)theLaw Wrote: It's a good point, but we still see massive differences in the Top 5 lists. There just aren't that many paths to the mountain-top, nor are there that many products. Again, this may just be an issue with sample size. Perhaps it would be more clear with 100,000 members.
This also discounts the "learn the product" philosophy. I have read very few reviews where members say "got laid with xyz and abc, but I prefer efg". Which really comes back to taking a bullet for the purpose of testing; an area that I am personally going to try and focus on in my future reviews.
The top 5 lists are personal preference lists, of course they are going to differ, in part due to all of the anomalies I listed above, and in part due to individuality.
Taking a bullet for the sake of testing? How about a learning experience in personal discovery?