Post: #11

(02-10-2014 5:12 PM)Wyatt Wrote:  This has gotten me laid on a first date paired with either MX297 or A314. Flip side is, it can be too much for some women and they'll bolt, or LMR will stop things. (M-11 still the only mone to get me laid on a first date as a solo product).

Who makes M-11?

Was it a ONE FIRST LAY WONDER?

How much did you have on?

And if I may, how old are you and your victim?

Thanks, Wyatt!

As for Turn Up The Heat, I think people THINK TOO MUCH. Fear not the -none, but your ATTITUDE that's on display. Depending on what mcg you order, it's only 2.5 mcgs worth of -none. Boo! You scared!?

Post: #12

To some 2.5mcg none maybe push them into a different state of mind. I know for me my facial expression changes with turn up the heat, but with p75 on it seems to soften it up more into what someone on a p75 thread label the Tony Stark effect. Besides that Turn Up The Heat is a physical stimulant, which means if they are comfortable with you they may actually show it mentally with body language and whatnot. Otherwise without a buffer of some kind they may be physically aroused but may act annoyed and the angry rather than relaxed and disinhibited, because they feel so horny around you. There are two parts to arousal, physical and mental, hitting one with mones and the other with your demeanor result in attraction which leads to sex. Lots of people don't understand this which is why they don't get laid Hahaha.

Post: #13

That 2.5mcg really isn't much. There's the same amount in Ammo. When it worked for me, had on 1 spray Turn Up The Heat and 2 Ammo and was getting heavy kino, her telling me how cute I am and clinging to my arm, rubbing her legs on mine. So that's at 7.5mcg of none. I excused myself to the restroom for one more spray of Turn Up The Heat, and it hits a lot harder when it's fresh. That's when I came back out and she jumped me. So I'm kinda leaning toward the idea of adding more none as the night progresses to gradually turn up the heat on her. This was with a girl I've cuddled with and kissed in the past, but the first time truly sealing the deal. But there are other products with a lot more none that are simply well buffered that I think may be better for it. I've been having fun with Evolve lately and I hear L2K is good stuff. That Turn Up The Heat needs some tinkering. But the sex was amazing and she got off easy and often.

Post: #14

(02-10-2014 7:04 PM)MMM Wrote:  Who makes M-11?

Was it a ONE FIRST LAY WONDER?

How much did you have on?

And if I may, how old are you and your victim?

Thanks, Wyatt!

As for Turn Up The Heat, I think people THINK TOO MUCH. Fear not the -none, but your ATTITUDE that's on display. Depending on what mcg you order, it's only 2.5 mcgs worth of -none. Boo! You scared!?

M-11 is by Pherone the first mone company I tried stuff from.

They had a primary none based product that I used a ton, but never could get a handle on it at the time (I'd use enough to get my old high school catpiss scent on my shoulders of my clothes). Looking back I was ghosting, with no game on my part and seriously no handle on what cues I should be looking for.

I then tested out M-11, liked it so much, bought another bottle, then when it went on sale I bought three more bottles at the same time.

As for the one lay wonder, my game was still non-existent back then (work in progress now), so it was all the mones. I was in my early 30ies, just broke up from my GF and she was I think mid to late 20ies. I wouldn't say victim in a Robert Greene sense as I still had no real idea on seduction and how it occurred (yet to read his book, but Mastery was great). Just put stuff on most nights after work to see what would happen.

Since going quiet for a couple of years, solo lays from MX353 and Ammo 2x World Edition. Still tempted to head back to Pherone as their M-11 was solid and I'm guessing the other stuff is too. (M-11 is a high Androstadienone base steered a bit by none and Androsterone would be my take on their mix)

As for Turn Up The Heat, just starting to lose my gun shyness and taking it to very high levels and the right game.