Post: #1

I have never had a SNL without pheromones.
I have never had a SNL without a product that had a stiff dose of Androstenone.
I have had some SNLs with Androstenone driven products or combos although it is still rare for me.

I want to know if it is possible for a guy like me who can't normally get SNLs without pheromones to get a SNL with a non-sexual product. By non-sexual I mean low or no Androstenone or at least not Androstenone driven.

Who here as gotten a SNL with the help of a non-sexual pheromone product? I mean a SNL that probably would not have happened without the product. Guys that get laid easily without pheromones don't count.

Post: #2

I think something like SXD-9 or Core fits your criteria. Another good allround product is Black Ops.

Post: #3

Does anybody else think that without None, there may be too much LMR? And it might leave the girl with the slightest intention to just be friends, effectively c-blocking the guy?

Obviously, I expect any PUA to chime in and state it all depends on game and frame. I think that's where this debate is heading anyway.

Post: #4

Well I wouldn't recommend Wolf here.

Post: #5

Core has been reported as a social sexual on this forum but I checked my notes and I don't think anyone has reported a SNL with it.

According to the SXD-9 product page, "SXD-9™ Is a powerful social sexual pheromone formula that is as sexual as it can get without pushing into alpha territory". But I have not seen any SNL reports with this one either.

crazy_rishi had a SNL here with GOA but I don't think it counts because I think he gets laid easily without pheromones.
https://pherotruth.com/Thread-threesome-...nish-girls

Post: #6

(04-26-2017 11:21 PM)metaltree Wrote:  Who here as gotten a SNL with the help of a non-sexual pheromone product? I mean a SNL that probably would not have happened without the product. Guys that get laid easily without pheromones don't count.

I have. A few times. I think I could have gotten more if I escalated verbally or physically more.
And no I don't get laid easily, although at those times they did make it easy.
But for the most part I wasnt on many radars.

Can I get laid with Core? Yes. Core is the lazy mans AV.
3 or 4 sprays of Core have a particular hypnotic magic.

Post: #7

(04-27-2017 9:45 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  I have. A few times. I think I could have gotten more if I escalated verbally or physically more.
And no I don't get laid easily, although at those times they did make it easy.
But for the most part I wasnt on many radars.

Can I get laid with Core? Yes. Core is the lazy mans AV.
3 or 4 sprays of Core have a particular hypnotic magic.

Ah yes, I remember your past posts about Core. I remember you mentioning that you need to escalate fast with core or else you will lose the attraction.

Post: #8

(04-27-2017 9:55 AM)metaltree Wrote:  I remember you mentioning that you need to escalate fast with core or else you will lose the attraction.

Actually i would say that's AV.

Core lets you get away with being lazy, a bit slow and even a bit beta.
I doesnt have much "in love" effect though and after a few days you will be forgotten and you have to start again.
That can be improved with some Imprint, Androstadienone , none, meo or just adding some NA.

Not having a problem with Androstadienone i got some extra from thundr and it was great.
Much better than and not as harsh on guys as the Androstadienone from AD.
Definitely made Core more memorable.
I added the Androstadienone to the Core bottle and I was using up to 4 x core + 3x Imprint

Post: #9

(04-27-2017 10:08 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  Actually i would say that's AV.

Oops sorry, I got that mixed up in my head.

Post: #10

So do I which is why I have to go back and reread my posts lol

But thats often been reported with AV:
Girls gives IOIs, come to talk, kino, rubs herself on guy...then like a cat put her tails in the air and walks away.
With Core she stay longer and talk, but she still needs a pat and a little scratch under her chin



And yes I have actually done that