Well most of us have used Androtics pheromones and love them but we dont really know what it is we are using because they code everything. That's OK they have to protect there work and this is a perfect way to do so.
Now there are other molecules other then the main ones we all use in mixes that are slowly popping up all over the place. Granted I know I have used them in some putative but I dont know whats what.
Lets explore that.......... I of course will need the help of the chemical astute ladies and gents LOL But maybe we can come up with a viable list and compare notes to get a feel for them. After all what if one day Androtics just disappears. Not that they will but what if. We use molecules we love there and we have to figure out some alternatives to the main stream mones we normally use.
epiandrosterone
Also known as Beta androsterone, Said to be a weak androgen.
Androgens are basically male steroids for those who dont know.
Its a precursor of dehydroepiandrosterone which we should also explore. Normally found urine and in testicular and ovarian tissue.
Not a lot of studies I am able to find indicating this one is a pheromone or acts as one. I would guess that it does though.
People have reported its relaxing confident similar to Androsterone but on a less masculine level.
I have read that it acts as a preovulatory hormone in females but there is little to back that up.
Many Pheromones can be found in natural substances and if you know the properties of those and what they have been used for for years I find I get a indication for what the pheromone can do. It seems to always connect there. I know this is not scientific but its just something I noticed
epiandrosterone can be found in pine pollen. Pine Pollen is used to increase the libido in men as well as give a feeling of well being. Soothing male energy.
This is just a wild guess but I am thinking P89 or P81. Possibly TAL
tetrahydrodeoxy-corticosterone
This on has me stumped a bit. Its a neurosteroid.................
It is synthesised in the brain from deoxycorticosterone by the action of two enzymes, 5α-reductase type I and 3α-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase.[2] THDOC
has sedative, anxiolytic and anticonvulsant effects,[3] and changes in the normal levels of this steroid particularly during pregnancy and menstruation may be involved in some types of epilepsy,as well as stress, anxiety and depression.
The bold part concerns me but this is once its synthecized by the brain. Not something I would choose to wear as a phermone.
Some have said it creates a chemical bond like in that between mother and child.
Also some sellers claim it resets a persons neurotransmitters and creates a memory loss of sorts so you can present your self in a new light. Of course there is nothing to scientifically back this up. In fact most abstracts indicate it dosent ever bind with the neurotransmitters thus it cant signal. I dont know one way or the other but I wont make claims that at least dont have some sort of scientific backing on this one.
dehydroepiandrosterone
Not to be confused with Di-dehydroepiandrosterone which as far as I know dosent exist.
DHEA The youth hormone
Quote:DHEA is a multi-functional steroid that has been implicated in a broad range of biological effects in humans and other mammals. Together with its sulfate ester (DHEA-S), it is the most abundant steroid in humans. DHEA is produced by adrenal glands, but also sythesized de novo in the brain. It acts on the androgen receptor both directly and through its metabolites, which include androstenediol and androstendione, which can undergo further conversion to produce the androgen testosterone and the estrogens estrone and estradiol DHEA is also a potent sigma-1 agonist .It is considered a neurosteroid.
Orally it is said to keep the body young. Pheromonally could it give a signal of youth and vibrancy ?
Quote:In the body hormonally it is said to give women a feeling of well being and improved sexuality as well as alleviate depression. Pheromonally it hasnt proven to do much but just because it hasnt been scientifically proven yet dosnt mean it should be ruled out as acting as a pheromone. Pheromones are derived from hormones but once they become pheromones they of course take a different pathway to the brain then hormones do and have a different function then hormones. So while its important to know where they come from and what pathways they take its not a indication of what they do
epoxyestratrienol
Gotta look into this one still........
beta-androstadienol
This one NBully tested out.
Quote:Androstadienol is the -Androstenol version of the famous molecule Androstadienone. Androstadienone is found to increase comfort in women. Beta-androstadienol has some reports of being a fun (hilarity) molecule.
I know its a low number in the putatives, somewhere below P85 . I was given the indicatio it is a popular putative. When Nbully asked him on PT he said most of use al ready have it.
estradiol Another to explore
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