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RE: Paradox's preliminary review of XS146 (Naked Gun)
09-06-2016 8:03 AM
(09-06-2016 5:57 AM)Paradox Wrote: This is not a thorough testing. It is a preliminary report.
I do all tests in a variety of situations and locations. I test with people that I know and don't know. I do have a set of targets who respond well to mones and also respond appropriately to whatever I have on. when I wear Alphas they show respect, socials they are conversational and sexuals they are flirtatious.
I test each product in the appropriate environment for the most part. Alphas are tested in a business environment. Socials are tested with friends at social gatherings and lone ventures into the social world.
Sexuals are tested in the daytime first and then at night. IMHO, if a sexual works in the daytime then it's good. The reasoning behind this is that sexual thoughts and feelings for women are slightly taboo during the day. At night it is more socially acceptable. In social settings (i.e. parties) where alcohol is present sexual thoughts and feelings are much, much more socially acceptable.
My testing style is to gather data (IOI's, responses, attitudes, behavioral changes, conversational cues, body language...ect) and aggregate the results. I sample as many people as possible and aggregate the behavioral results into commonalities.
I don't make a judgment based on one incident, one look, one smile...one great experience out of 10 times using a product means one of two things. It means that either the one good product experience was a fluke or there are special circumstances.
Most users will not accept that the one experience is a fluke. They adamantly believe that the mix worked and the other nine bad (no positive reaction from targets) experiences are "throwaways". They throwaway the nine bad experiences and only count the one good experience.
The other thing that could have happened in a 1 out of 9 result is: 1 Latina, 9 Caucasian targets. 1 woman in menstruation, 9 non-menstruating women. 1 blonde, 9 brunettes. In other words that one woman may be different from the other nine. This is sort of a longshot but it is still a possibility and must be considered when testing.
When testing I also note product longevity and placebo issues. Most guys do not take into account the time limit of the mix that they are wearing.
A report from a PUA will be markedly different from someone with no experience with women. A non-PUA will sit in the corner and wait for interaction. If he is at a bar and a barmaid smiles at him and touches his hand his brain lights up and tells him he just got a big hit from the pheromones.
Here is what a non-PUA doesn't take into account:
1. Why did she smile and touch my hand? Is it because she likes me or because she wants a big tip?
2. Do I look and act like a sucker that she could milk money from?
3. Is she just having a good day?
4. Does she flirt with every man who comes in to the bar? (making the gesture completely meaningless)
5. Are the pheromones still working or are they past their time limit.
All of these questions have to be asked in the moment. Most of the forum members don't examine the moment they just report that she was attracted to him.
The average Joe reporting on here doesn't test as deeply as I do. My opinion of course.
But, like I said it is a preliminary report.
This is all well and good and you've produced some damn fine reporting. My concern is the initial report basically states the product is a dud without providing any data to back up WHY you felt the initial results are severely lacking. It's generally accepted that an adequate report, prelim or not, should include some sort of data (who were the subjects, ethnicity, age, personality type, PUA versus non PUA technique, etc). I've not used it, like the rest of us, we're waiting for solid reporting from members that we respect. When I saw your thread, my first thought was that we finally had someone experienced testing it, so you can imagine I was a bit disappointed to see a lack of data as I've found your posts to be quite informative.
(09-06-2016 7:00 AM)V-nice Wrote: Laughing out loud... It REALLY doesn't take long to figure out if a product is doing something. I'm already done with it, with still more than half a bottle left. In my humble experience, products that have done great showed me something right out the gate.
I'm sorry, but after a week of testing and not seeing anything to even give my take on it, What more do I want to test? Nothing on my SO, nothing on others. Taboo blows Naked Gun out the water!
I find interesting your views that it doesn't take long to figure out a product. I find that generally, that's the case, though not always. Take Bad Wolf for example. Initial reviews weren't good with the exception of a few of us that had good results. As time went on, folks began to get a handle on how it works. Some products do take time to figure out. That all being said, there's not been much chatter about NG over at DSX, minus a few reports, so I'm looking forward to a more detailed report from Paradox. Your report sounds like the product is similar to PSE. Worked for some, did nothing for others (myself included).
PXS: xs99, pse, impact, oddessy, connections, Impact, Ascend, Dominant Ascend
LAL: Bad Wolf, Wolf, Voodoo
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