RE: P75 in stock...$1000 per 5mL...
09-15-2011 2:21 PM
[/color]4- Hidden reasons.
4c- Money reasons, sometimes people have misunderstandings, and piss off other companies, and can't get another order processed until they pay all the money owed the other company. So they decide to never do business with them again, and not pay off the $100k owed. (This is merely speculative about AD, it has happened at all the companies I've worked for though, in larger and smaller amounts.)
4d- Executive decisions. Saying that Pxxa and Pxxb are so close in effects that it is financially unable to keep supplying both Pxxx's. (But only if it costs over $30/mg or $30,000/g. [1mg->5mcg/spray in a 30mL bottle.] This is absurd, as keeping $1000 of each molecule in powder form could not be considered an unbearable business expense.) I don't see the space on a shelf to hold a 1gram or 100gram bottle being a space taker either.
4e- They lost it. They either lost the chemicals identity, or never had it. Or they lost the know how to synthesize it, or the access to facilities to synthesize it. OR they lost "THE RIGHT" to synthesize it. If they are bound by IP Laws (Intelectual Property) or patents/trademarks to pay royalties when using a molecule or using a molecule in a certain way. That could create the burden of added expense. Or if they signed away their rights to certain mixes and formula trade secrets by selling them, or the right to use certain chemicals by signing agreements with suppliers for discounted prices of molecules or synthesis costs to not bypass them and use other suppliers. You can lose rights just by signing them away. Or someone else patenting something and then coming up to you and saying "HEY! You are infringing on my patent, cease and desist and/or pay me my royalties!"
I have gleaned some more from the AD forum that plays a little into the "4a-e" above.
Jasmine's post shows some items of interest from Jasmine on 2010 May 13.
"Sorry, guys, OBVIOUSLY we want to keep a lot of product in stock. It's in your best interest, as well as ours, but there have been a LOT of problems...
we actually had terminally severe problems with our banks for the first time. We lost 2 credit lines -- our corporate, multi-user credit card from Bank of America (ask Steve where his went) and large line of credit that helped with growth, as well providing a buffer for operation costs....They were terminated in one fell swoop, even though we were never late. In fact, as a matter of internal financial discipline, we had a policy of paying the day was received, not the day the bill was due...
...been working with a major Danish bank to establish a new credit line that should help us to bypass some of the financial system corruption happening domestically. If we get this credit line, we should be able to restock almost everything, and even expand.
Second problem. The small, boutique chemists we like to use here in the US have experienced both lower volume from other clients as well as higher "base material" costs. They've had to go into survival mode themselves to stay afloat, and have completely lost whatever economy of scale they previously had.
That has translated into buying materials at up to 4X our previous cost -- very difficult for an operation like ours which does it's best not to buy the much lower quality stuff from China. Many times what you get from us *is* THE "chemical standard", the VERY best. The same exact chemical you'd see used in an official academic study, and not a much cheaper synthesis made for thrifty drugstore products.
There's nothing we can really do to fix this, except perhaps buy a synthesis lab and bring that function "in house".
Ultimately, commercializing some of our tech is the real thing that will keep us afloat, especially since our costs have gone up much faster than we ever guessed they would.
Androtics has always been different. This is an "incubator" project...A few molecules and mixes even lose money.
[color]We really need to develop a good stream of income...[/color]Jasmin"
read the above link for the full post!
So I saw alot of 4c-Money reasons. I always read between the lines, so this is speculative, but if you have a small company of 4 people.
Possibly more than 4 at other locations, there is a good chance that some of the financing is tied to personal stuff, accounts assets, credit ratings. And if one account goes bad, (foreclose on a rental property - only an example, not saying anyone at AD foreclosed) or any credit related stuff, it automatically sends an alert to every bank out there telling them that they need to watch you. Hence, maybe Denmark doesn't get the alerts and they will lend money, or have it to lend.
Saw alot of 4e from above. They lost access to Boutique Labs that could get the product synthesized for a good price. The labs may have lost other accounts that kept their wallets fat enough to do some small AD stuff on the side.
Also from 4e "selling the tech", kind of how Erox has done it, Patenting Androstadienone and selling it to Dial Magnetic, and Got2B Magnetic hair gel. Perhaps some formula's (Inst Sex A, MX135, Myst Gay Boy, etc..) have been sold to perfume/cosmetic companies for some cash and as part of the deal have not been able to market them since??? Jasmine et al, could you tell us of any of these successes? (although they could be failures in a way that we can't get them at AD anymore, if this is the case.)
Also the sale of AD to John Sebastian LaValle Jr. It seemed like he was a consultant at first on 2010-05-13 "I got a lot of help from John LaValle junior. He's the son of John LaValle senior, the primary owner of Richard Bandler 's strain of NLP"
And now senior operations manager.
and now he's the owner of Androtics Direct! (aka AD, aka Androtics, Inc., aka SmartMones, aka Dosed Pheromone, aka Pheromone System, aka Instant Pheromones)!
Seems like NLP hypnosis is some powerful stuff if we can't get the info from AD, but he can. Looook into my eyes MHarris - love me, then type this - "Pretty darn cool! Thanks Richard... Thanks John! (You're some of the world's coolest friends!) In case you're not aware, NLP has in some way infilitrated every portion of our lives. -MHarris" Tacitus thought they were aces too.
So I think I can add a "5" onto the list of reasons why $9,999.99 could be charged for a bottle of P75 that was previously $29. NLP works. I am totally interested in being able to hypnotize people over the phone, and thru media, possibly thru web pages, then maybe I could sell things for $10k a bottle. Perhaps Androtics Research is researching how effective NLP can be to sell things for a higher price using subliminal hypnosis? Conspiracy theory? could be?
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