Post: #1

I noticed that a lot of people mix stand alone products. I used to do that a lot when I was going for a pherobomb effect but the practice doesn't make too much sense to me otherwise.

The founders of the pheromone companies represented here know much more about pheromones than we do. They spend a massive amount of time tweaking their various products until they are just right. They beta test the products and they give us a description of how the product is supposed to work. This is great for us. We pick a stand alone product where all the work has been done and go on our way. We can put on just a little or a lot depending on our mood.

But when you take two stand alone products and combine them all the molecule ratios are thrown off. All the beta testing that was done goes out the window. For all practical purposes you have a completely random product. What is the point of that?

So everyone, what are your thoughts on this?

Post: #2

I think that all the phero companies sell their products as 'standalones'....... I have never seen any company to propose the purchase of 3-4 of their products in order to make an ideal combination. They also never tell you that another company's product is better than their products, or mixing 2 products from different companies may lead to the same creation that a 3rd company has already brought to the market. Then it comes to the personal effects that Pheromones cause to people, lets say that a heavy dose of -none gives you headaches while I don't feel anything even after 10 sprays, you get depression from specific mones while I get excitement etc.... I may give you proposals for mixes that work for me and you may waste your time and money because they may be crap for you..... I prefer to test products and combinations in order to find out if they are good FOR ME! Then, I'll post the results and the only way to find out if it is good FOR YOU is to try it, not to accept it because I said that or the company advertised it as the ultimate-super-phero product.

Post: #3

I call it, "MONE OD" or "PUSSY POWER"

MONE OD: When a male is so desperate to get laid, subconsciously, he doesn't have time to find out what a standalone does. Yes, even if the directions tells him.

PUSSY POWER: When a male is so desperate to get laid, subconsciously, he doesn't have time to find out what a standalone does. Yes, even if the directions tells him.

As you can see, they both have the same definition. That's what pussy does to MOST men. I have to laugh because some of the men on here sound smart, some sound intelligent, and in both cases, you can clearly see the lack of common sense. It pays to step outside of yourselves to see what's really going on. Money and Women make the world go round. Once you figure that to be true, you'll get to see things differently and maybe, just maybe, stick to the speed limit, and you won't panic so much.

I have no problem with women ruling the world. I have a problem with women ruling me!

So, here I sit, waiting to see if the REAL PANTY REMOVER will show itself before I'm no longer interested in sex.

Anyway, that's MY ANSWER as to why.

A wise wino once said, "He who panics the most ... WILL blow the most pussy!"

G'day!!

Post: #4

What really determines a standalone. Is it somebody telling me that this is standalone. What if I wanted something with more comfort and an edge. Most of the vendors calling things standalones aren't really that much of a specialist.

They are pseudo scientist who have an idea how things may or may not work. I haven't seen anyone comment and say that the pheromone Overdose by LAL works exactly as the description. What about Bad Wolf, where are the consistent results. We only have 3-4 experienced pheromone users who knew how to work it or tempered it with something else. Those guys are the ones that mix and match for their preferences, knowing that a bit of this and some of that makes a great mix

Core by itself is a great standalone for thundr, he's a big guy, eats rights and works out. So he has more testosterone than the average person. What if I'm not a big guy and my eating habits suck and I produce low amounts of testosterone. Am I suppose to use a golden mix for somebody else, why can't I add something else.

By the way L2K is the combination of 2 standalone , Chris mixed 2 of his standalone to get that. L2K is the combination of AM and Glace. What if people who mixed these 2 together got great results and then inspired Chris to try something different

Examine found something off with L2K by itself so he mixed it with TAA for fantastic results that took off the edge of the androstadienone from L2K. Why does he need to listen to anybody, he seems to be pretty good at testing and figuring out what's good for him.

This is not an industry that people can be prescribed a specific amount, its just a suggestion because YMMV or maybe you just met a kinky chick that loves it when you OD

Post: #5

(07-18-2014 3:33 PM)metaltree Wrote:  I noticed that a lot of people mix stand alone products. I used to do that a lot when I was going for a pherobomb effect but the practice doesn't make too much sense to me otherwise.

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But when you take two stand alone products and combine them all the molecule ratios are thrown off. All the beta testing that was done goes out the window. For all practical purposes you have a completely random product. What is the point of that?

So everyone, what are your thoughts on this?

Personally, the point is to create a unique flavour just for me. Different body chemistries cause different reactions with the same amount of a specific mone added to skin. One drop of a product may be OD for one person whereas another may be able to bathe in 10 drops without any sign of OD.

Beta testing is, at best, a way to determine the general characteristics of a product. For instance, A314 is marketed as an "authority figure" product, and I used to go with a straight 4 drops back in '09 which basically turned me into a drill sergeant (useful since I was teaching classes of unruly teens, they absolutely feared me in the beginning but loved me by the end of the year.)

But the same 4 drops also got me an F-close with a Malay lady. Threw on 30" of scented Scent of Eros with 4 drops A314 and Chinese women were riding my shaft. Cut down A314 to 2 drops, added 2 dabs of old N.P.A with 12 inches of Scent of Eros and I banged an Indian girl's brains out.

Sure, the products may be marketed as standalone. But once I've tested them individually and found the right sweetspots for me, I'm gonna combine 2 or more products to give my pherocloud a more rounded ability. More body, if you will. But that's just me.

Of course, there's always MONE OD CUM PUSSY POWER as MMM has correctly pointed out.

(07-18-2014 6:44 PM)LL21 Wrote:  ...

This is not an industry that people can be prescribed a specific amount, its just a suggestion because YMMV or maybe you just met a kinky chick that loves it when you OD

THIS.

Post: #6

(07-18-2014 8:24 PM)kimosabe Wrote:  Beta testing is, at best, a way to determine the general characteristics of a product. For instance, A314 is marketed as an "authority figure" product, and I used to go with a straight 4 drops back in '09 which basically turned me into a drill sergeant (useful since I was teaching classes of unruly teens, they absolutely feared me in the beginning but loved me by the end of the year.)

But the same 4 drops also got me an F-close with a Malay lady. Threw on 30" of scented Scent of Eros with 4 drops A314 and Chinese women were riding my shaft. Cut down A314 to 2 drops, added 2 dabs of old N.P.A with 12 inches of Scent of Eros and I banged an Indian girl's brains out.

True story, K, or just examples?

Thanks!

One thing for sure, the BOTTOM LINE is ...

once you pay for it, you can do anything with it you please.

Post: #7

(07-18-2014 10:10 PM)MMM Wrote:  True story, K, or just examples?

Thanks!

One thing for sure, the BOTTOM LINE is ...

once you pay for it, you can do anything with it you please.

True story Triple M. Those were some of my best hits with mones back in the days of first starting with them. Edit: Just to add, that was Love Scent's version of A314. Scented S.O.E and old N.P.A were purchased from Love Scent at the same time also (along with WAGG-N, which thus far has failed me miserably.)

Edit2: Worth mentioning that the Malay lady is 6 years older than me. Also worth mentioning that those dosages worked with "my body chemistry."

Downside to 4 drops A314 straight is that even adults became fearful of and avoided me whenever they could. Only a select few chose to come into my phero cloud and stay there as friends (even to this day.) Also, I told off my Head of Department to his face when he made a narrow minded statement to me. He... was... intimidated.

Didn't report them on the thread I started in Love Scent forum since I was extremely busy as a teacher, didn't have time.

Post: #8

I would like to contribute the idea that there is no standalone.

When I use 'mones there is always some residue from last time.

No matter how hard I scrub and use soap and water, the spot on my arm next to my watch band where I usually spray 'mones still smells like 'mones. There is always some residue from the last application.

A mix of 'mones will degrade by some molecules diffusing faster than others, changing the mix as time goes on. Like drinking a slurpee and you get all the liquid first and then you are left with the harder ice. Reapplying or applying something different as time goes on to try to keep it in "THE ZONE".

Tiger Juice got me reactions, but they were different after 2 hours of Perception, then applying the Tiger Juice. Timing may be important. Had to get to MOOD A, before moving on to MOOD B.

Post: #9

(07-23-2014 3:09 PM)dexter Wrote:  I would like to contribute the idea that there is no standalone.

When I use 'mones there is always some residue from last time.

No matter how hard I scrub and use soap and water, the spot on my arm next to my watch band where I usually spray 'mones still smells like 'mones. There is always some residue from the last application.

A mix of 'mones will degrade by some molecules diffusing faster than others, changing the mix as time goes on. Like drinking a slurpee and you get all the liquid first and then you are left with the harder ice. Reapplying or applying something different as time goes on to try to keep it in "THE ZONE".

Tiger Juice got me reactions, but they were different after 2 hours of Perception, then applying the Tiger Juice. Timing may be important. Had to get to MOOD A, before moving on to MOOD B.

This.
Plus, you always have to keep in mind YOUR own pheromone output. I am never just wearing Androstenone, I am wearing Androstenone PLUS my own output based on genetics, diet and degree of personal hygiene.

Post: #10

I am convinced that mixing products can be a good thing. I've been thinking about this a lot and I'm thinking that it makes more sense to combine a complex product with a simple product (Or single molecule). Combining two complex products just seems like it would be confusing to figure out. Or combining two simple products might make sense too.

For Example:
Alfa Maschio (Complex) + Cohesion (Simple)
Alfa Maschio (Complex) + Beta Androstenol (Single Molecule)
Evolve (Complex) + Cohesion (Simple)
Nude (Complex) + Primitive (Simple)
Core (Complex) + Androstadienone (Single Molecule)

In each of these cases your taking a product that can work very well as a stand alone and steering it in a new direction. Since you are steering with a single molecule or simple product it will be easier to understand the effects.

On the other side of the coin as was alluded to by other posters in this thread that you might come across something that works great with your own pheromone signature by combining two complex products. I'm not against mixing complex products. I just think it's very confusing to understand the interactions of the products. That's why I'm advocating complex + simple.