Post: #21

(01-02-2013 5:45 PM)extraballislit Wrote:  Hi there fishdude. Happy new year!
Fast burn? I noticed once it was acting faster pretty fast in a not so warm climate, much faster than expected, specially if compared to V1, which seemed to take a bit to warm up ..... but didn't know it was created fastburn... has ever Chris called it that way?

I think in one of Chris's posts he gave a lay-down of what v.2 is supposed be like and I beileve it was implied that it was a fast burn formula ... I could be wrong tho ...

Post: #22

(01-02-2013 5:57 PM)ryusei Wrote:  I think in one of Chris's posts he gave a lay-down of what v.2 is supposed be like and I beileve it was implied that it was a fast burn formula ... I could be wrong tho ...

Heres what chris wrote.

(12-07-2012 10:55 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  V2 will come back if by popular demand. The main difference between v1 and v2 is the higher concentration of androstAnone and androstenone, but mainly the androstenone. If you guys have any adrostenone, applying approximately 5 micrograms of androstenone per 1 spray of l2k v1, will make it very much the same animal as v2.

I'll make up another batch of v2 by the 15th, before I take off to spend some time with family for the holidays.

I'll also get it on the site someday soon.

Chris @ Alpha

Post: #23

V2 is fastburn. Higher none content and a few other tweaks. Just look up the original L2K threads

Post: #24

I had written this in my journal back when v2 came out, I put together all the different posts Chris had leaked as to what he was tweaking...

(10-11-2012 11:52 AM)TwistedOstrich Wrote:  There isn't much posted on L2K or v2 on Alpha Dreams website website so I decided to look back and grab anything constructive that was mentioned about the two for my own reference. I like to try and anticipate how much androstAnone there is in a product and keep track of family reactions regarding. Anyone else have info on L2k and its evolution...

Calculating from the info thats given my best guess to the L2Kv1 brake down is aprox...

4.05 mg Androstadienone
2.4 mg none
2.84 mg androstAnone
8.1 mg DHEAS
8.4 mg alpha androstenol
"A lot of additional Molecule 'A'"
Possible 1 unlisted ingredient
Possible 1 secret ingredient

With the "25% increase -none" I subtracted 12.5% equally from both none types, it could be more changes in androstAnone or vice versa. Alpha dreams website says the original Alpha Maschio had 29 mg per bottle (Did Chris ever give an updated number?) From whats calculated here L2kv1 has potentially 25.79mg of ingredients disclosed. There is 3.21 or more if using 29mg as a reference point distributed to Molecule A/alpha-THDOC and any secret ingredients. V2 has 31.5mg thats disclosed and what looks like some secret ingredients used for steering so my best guess is that both v1 and v2 are not too far off from having between 32-35mg of ingredients. Anyone have info on alpha dream sprayers? What would be the mcg per spray with the known ingredients...

(09-25-2012 8:05 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  The new formula(L2Kv2) has revised with different concentrations of -none, -dienone, -stanone, alpha nol, Mol A, and DHEAS.

25% increase -none
10% increase -dienone
30% increase -alpha nol
100% decrease (elimination) -mol A
10% increase DHEAS

The formula is offered in Propylene glycol / EtOH base with 5% H2O. Starting tomorrow, this will be shipping out for any new orders. The re-order discount code will be set up very soon.

Very fast diffusion in a more polar, hydrophillic base affording faster diffusion to the salt DHEAS (the primary drive).

(05-22-2012 8:29 AM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  (regarding L2Kv1).... will be a revamped version of Alfa Maschio, with a lot of additional Molecule "A", a lot more DHEAS, and the first blend ever to be released with alpha-THDOC in it. It is also going to be the first formula we release with the new "gears & leather" fragrance. Think of this as a hybrid of alfa M with a supercharged version of fastburn glace (this will have 46% alcohol). I don't have enough experience with it yet to accurately catagorize this yet, however Amara and I believe it to be a very special formula, which potentially could target younger women (20's and such). Introductiory price: $79...

Post: #25

I wore 3 sprays of L2k today and noticed the my speech is a little more fluid than usual, I was tired and not really "in the zone" and I usually have a slight stutter when I'm tired. People have reported an increase in eloquence in the single molecules section, regarding Alpha-THdoc.

Twisted, what do you think of adding some TL to L2k? Since its supposedly a refined version of AM, wouldn't this be awesome (considering people have had crazy success with the AM+TL combo)? I'd try it myself but I'm running low

Post: #26

(01-03-2013 5:55 AM)phertest Wrote:  I wore 3 sprays of L2k today and noticed the my speech is a little more fluid than usual, I was tired and not really "in the zone" and I usually have a slight stutter when I'm tired. People have reported an increase in eloquence in the single molecules section, regarding Alpha-THdoc.

Twisted, what do you think of adding some TL to L2k? Since its supposedly a refined version of AM, wouldn't this be awesome (considering people have had crazy success with the AM+TL combo)? I'd try it myself but I'm running low

Well, I would probably advise against this, L2k changes over time ... and pairing it up with something else can really screw it up ... L2k really is enough on its own ... L2k is meant to be a AM revision but IMO it's really quite different ... Remember that l2k is meant to be a standalone so I think people really need to wear l2k on its own for a while, then you will get the hang of it and understand why pairing it up with something is a huge no-no, maybe fast-burn glace with it as it is warming up on the skin but other than that really not adviseable, I think Twisted would agree over this, as me and him have PM'ed over l2k quite a bit ... I mean you can do it, but be warned the effects won't be as awesome as l2k alone

Post: #27

Yeah can anyone post the link to ordering L2K? I didn't see where on alpha dreams site we can order it from. Thanks!

Post: #28

(01-03-2013 9:42 AM)latorrin82 Wrote:  Yeah can anyone post the link to ordering L2K? I didn't see where on alpha dreams site we can order it from. Thanks!

Lol really?

Thats interesting.

Post: #29

Thanks for your input Ryu, I am still curious about the mix as I want to recover some romantic feelings from this girl, which was a while ago... I don't have a good grip on l2k yet and well be seeing each other at a party on Saturday which is why I wanted to know.

Sorry for dragging this out, but what effect would it have? Since I can't see any potential clashes -- in fact, the disinhibition from the th-doc plus the crushy feeling from Methoxyestratetraenone and dienone sounds bomb! (in theory of course)

Post: #30

(01-03-2013 11:16 AM)phertest Wrote:  Thanks for your input Ryu, I am still curious about the mix as I want to recover some romantic feelings from this girl, which was a while ago... I don't have a good grip on l2k yet and well be seeing each other at a party on Saturday which is why I wanted to know.

Sorry for dragging this out, but what effect would it have? Since I can't see any potential clashes -- in fact, the disinhibition from the th-doc plus the crushy feeling from Methoxyestratetraenone and dienone sounds bomb! (in theory of course)

The disinhibition is nice. I havent felt this sarcastic since i used 297. Nice observation about the eloquence. That could be a result of the a doc as well. I used to gauge how i liked a mix based on how sarcastic it made me. Actually it would be more accurate to say that it allowed me to freely express what i was feeling.

Wore 2 sprays yesterday and had a bangin day at work. My inter office emails reminded me of my 297 days but there aredifferences. Hmmm.