Post: #1

Rageful effects.

I've got a couple score pheromones/putatives sitting around.

There are two I've tried that have caused angry reactions:
Cohesion
Turn Up The Heat

I don't mean pumped up like you get on AV. I mean like rageful/mean.

Is it possible this was just Androstadienone ? I'm afraid to try Imprint and Core because I've heard they Androstadienone . In fact, I am afraid to try any mix with Androstadienone . My only theory is that on some primal level, I though the signature was some sort of threat. I went into pure fight/flight mode.

Any ideas on what that might be? It was two drops mixed with Evolve. Evolve solo, no big deal.

Here is a brief list of the other that have NO such negative effects:
Perfect 10
NA
PPA
x22
NNPA
Glace
Atlas
Evolve
API
Xist
Alter Ego
Edge
M3X
Hypnotica
Wolf
Dozen or so random putatives

Post: #2

core doesn't have Androstadienone

Post: #3

Yep, was drunk and went ape shit at my brother. Can't make sense of it to this day. Was wearing 3/4 sprays of M3x which is a lot. Was on a stag so had been drinking a few days back to back and wearing high none products. I've had nothing like it before and never since, lasted two hours, just wouldn't stop trying to hit him. Not a violent person, never hit my brother since we were kids, and we're v close. I'm fairly self aware and don't believe i have any underlying psychological issues or animus to my brother. So it seems likely there's a connection with the none.

Post: #4

Don't drink or get baked while on mones.

Post: #5

Don't drink with M3X. Tried that four times. Could barely remember anything every single time.

Post: #6

Cohesion and Turn Up The Heat are almost at opposite ends of the mone spectrum. Androstadienone usually causes depression,not anger.

Post: #7

(05-20-2016 3:12 PM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  Cohesion and Turn Up The Heat are almost at opposite ends of the mone spectrum. Androstadienone usually causes depression,not anger.

Yeah - treat Turn Up The Heat as a wild card. I got tense and uptight, not beserk. Oddly enough my anger with cohesion was also with a relative. But I was uptight for like 2 days. It was so impulsive, I haven't touched the bottle.

I'm going dive in on imprint soon. Overcome my fear of Androstadienone .

Post: #8

(05-20-2016 8:51 PM)Jimmycrack Wrote:  Yeah - treat Turn Up The Heat as a wild card. I got tense and uptight, not beserk. Oddly enough my anger with cohesion was also with a relative. But I was uptight for like 2 days. It was so impulsive, I haven't touched the bottle.

I'm going dive in on imprint soon. Overcome my fear of Androstadienone .

Cohesion has 5mcg of Androstenone/spray and Turn Up The Heat has 2.5mcg/per spray.Maybe,you have a problem with Androstenone products and not Androstadienone products.

Post: #9

Yeah do not drink heavy with M3X. Don't do it

Post: #10

If I forget to wash off the Androstadienone after using it, I start getting really angry. I've woken very angry during the night, plotting petty, stupid revenge. It took a bit to figure what was happening, but I find that it is hard to control my thoughts once it has started. It also lasts for a few days even after washed. Outside of this, I never have any personal anger or aggression issues.