Post: #1

Okay, experts... I decided to get crazy and do a 30 ML mix..... I wonder what this will convey?

It's gonna be in a 30 ml bottle.

Androstadienone - 5% (0.300mg)
Androstatrione - 5% (0.300mg)
Androstenol (3-alpha) - 10% (0.500mg)
Androstenol (3-beta) - 5% (0.250mg)
Androstenone - 20% (1.000mg)
AndrosteRone (3-alpha) - 45% (2.250mg)
AndrosteRone (3-beta) - 10% (0.600mg)

I'm guessing that the social part (nols) will have an Instant Openness effect (2:1 ratio Alpha Androstenol to Beta Androstenol), but how do you think this mix will come off?

I'm thinking somewhere between Ammo and A314.

Post: #2

Me think coporotivo like hits, from alpha dream

(12-30-2011 8:24 PM)OchrismongrelO Wrote:  Okay, experts... I decided to get crazy and order a 30 ML mix..... I wonder what this will convey?

It's gonna be in a 30 ml bottle.

Androstadienone - 5% (0.300mg)
Androstatrione - 5% (0.300mg)
Androstenol (3-alpha) - 10% (0.500mg)
Androstenol (3-beta) - 5% (0.250mg)
Androstenone - 20% (1.000mg)
AndrosteRone (3-alpha) - 45% (2.250mg)
AndrosteRone (3-beta) - 10% (0.600mg)

I'm guessing that the social part (nols) will have an Instant Openness effect (2:1 ratio Alpha Androstenol to Beta Androstenol), but how do you think this mix will come off?

I'm thinking somewhere between Ammo and A314.

Post: #3

(12-30-2011 8:35 PM)SeriousSmile Wrote:  Me think coporotivo like hits, from alpha dream

I would think something along those lines too.....BUT....the rather interesting variables in there are the androstatrione and the beta androsterone..... i'm curious what direction they'll take the mix.

Post: #4

I think it will be a very intimidating mix with all of the Androsterone in there. But who knows, you may have discovered The Holy Grail.

What were you going for with this mix? Work mix? Social?

Post: #5

(12-30-2011 8:52 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  I think it will be a very intimidating mix with all of the Androsterone in there. But who knows, you may have discovered The Holy Grail.

What were you going for with this mix? Work mix? Social?

A mix similar to a314 but with a sexy and social, popular kinda side. Something that can be just as alpha and effective at a bar as at work, pretty much. Kinda in between Ammo and A314.

Post: #6

Androstadienone - 5% (0.300mg) = 1.5mcg/spray
Androstatrione - 5% (0.300mg) = 1.5mcg/spray
Androstenol (3-alpha) - 10% (0.500mg) = 2.5mcg/spray
Androstenol (3-beta) - 5% (0.250mg) = 1.25mcg/spray
Androstenone - 20% (1.000mg) = 5.0mcg/spray
AndrosteRone (3-alpha) - 45% (2.250mg) 11.25mcg/spray
AndrosteRone (3-beta) - 10% (0.600mg) 3.0mcg/spray

If you are going for 1 spray, massive intimidation, Androsterone overdose. You should try applying 2.5mcg of A-Androsterone solo to know how strong this stuff is. The none will overpower all the other pheromones. The magic ratio before, for pleasant hits was 5 parts Androsterone to 1 part none.

If you want ammo like hits than I would balance the Androsterone to none ratio and leave everything and double the alpha nol to lessen the none intimidation, and make you somewhat approachable.
As long as none is not well buffered, it will always over power all the others. Same goes with Androsterone.

None should be the least ratio in there, and Androsterone at 1.0mcg per spray is good enough, assuming that you are going to use more than one spray at a time.

Post: #7

Per spray this comes out to:

11.25mcg Androsterone
5mcg none
3mcg b-Androsterone
2.5mcg Alpha Androstenol
1.5mcg Androstadienone
1.5mcg Atrione
1.25mcg Beta Androstenol

So yeah, I'd say this is gonna be very intimidating and sexual. I'd expect hits similar to old-school A314.

Post: #8

(12-30-2011 9:11 PM)SeriousSmile Wrote:  If you are going for 1 spray, massive intimidation, Androsterone overdose. You should try applying 2.5mcg of A-Androsterone solo to know how strong this stuff is. The none will overpower all the other pheromones. The magic ratio before, for pleasant hits was 5 parts Androsterone to 1 part none.

Are you sure? I was of the understanding that A314 (Mr Intimidation itself) was a whopping 80 percent Androsterone!!! This stuff does have a good bit of none in it, but it's also got Alpha and Beta nols in it along with Androstadienone , and Beta Androsterone... shouldn't they buffer it somewhat?

Post: #9

(12-30-2011 9:45 PM)OchrismongrelO Wrote:  Are you sure? I was of the understanding that A314 (Mr Intimidation itself) was a whopping 80 percent Androsterone!!! This stuff does have a good bit of none in it, but it's also got Alpha and Beta nols in it along with Androstadienone , and Beta Androsterone... shouldn't they buffer it somewhat?

A314 has 9 pheromones in total. When androtics say it is pre dominant with 80% Androsterone, are they only talking about A-Androsterone or is it a mix of a+b Androsterone?

Post: #10

(12-30-2011 10:06 PM)SeriousSmile Wrote:  A314 has 9 pheromones in total. When androtics say it is pre dominant with 80% Androsterone, are they only talking about A-Androsterone or is it a mix of a+b Androsterone?

Good question. I thought I read somewhere that it was alpha Androsterone. I've been speculating that maybe MX297 was the same mix as a314 except perhaps with beta Androsterone instead... but then that's only a guess.