Post: #11

(11-09-2017 12:44 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  I've tried BW and Voodoo in a combo. Personally, I think they clash. Voodoo is more dreamy

What was your BW to V ratio ?

Post: #12

It's been a while, but as I recall it was probably around 15 drops of Bad Wolf and 4 drops of Voodoo. I rarely count BW drops, but the voodoo scent is so strong that I don't use more than 4 drops. Something felt off, I think it's because they're both very complex formulas with different design goals. It's not really conclusive, I might go back to it at some point, maybe go lower with BW. I've had best results with Voodoo solo, but I think there was a day last summer I used a combo of Voodoo and Impi, around 4 drops with 4 sprays with decent effects. That could be worth a shot.

Post: #13

(11-09-2017 2:48 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  It's been a while, but as I recall it was probably around 15 drops of Bad Wolf and 4 drops of Voodoo

not enough voodoo. Try a 2-1 ratio of voodoo to BW.

Post: #14

Sounds a bit light on the BW. 2 drops and I don't feel a thing. But I'll probably get around to it. What were your results?

Post: #15

(11-09-2017 3:48 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  Sounds a bit light on the BW. 2 drops and I don't feel a thing. But I'll probably get around to it. What were your results?

I wear voodoo to smooth out BW. If you want to wear high dose BW, you're gonna need to up your voodoo dose. With 15 drops of BW ...4 drops voodoo I don't think is enough to smooth out the rough edges.

I find voodoo to be slightly sexual. Added with BW makes a nice approachable sexual alpha vibe. I wore it around my ex a few times and she became very horny. ... porn star level horny.

Post: #16

Hmmm.... Mac. Based on both your posts( you and Spidey), why not try 8 drops BW
and 4 drops VD just ta see what happens?

Post: #17

@ Spider-mone. I agree that Voodoo can be slightly sexual, but it's not in the same way as Bad Wolf. I find that Voodoo doesn't really make my horny, but more mellow and intimate, almost high. I'm not really looking to smooth out BW, but enhance it. I mostly get those wild moments when I combo BW with SOB or Aqua Vitae. Voodoo works great for me when I want to meet new people and be low key about it, it adds that dreamy, atmospheric quality like were in a movie. Bad Wolf is raw and I like to make it even rawer. I guess everybody has their own thing going on. But I'll see if I can get around to testing your combo and where it takes me.

@ Lostdreams. That was what I originally thought, go higher with BW. I always use a high dose of BW as the base for any combo. Take BW and SOB for example, the SOB is going to hit first, then Bad Wolf creeps up and takes over as we move along.

Post: #18

(11-09-2017 4:30 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  @ Spider-mone. I agree that Voodoo can be slightly sexual, but it's not in the same way as Bad Wolf. I find that Voodoo doesn't really make my horny, but more mellow and intimate, almost high. I'm not really looking to smooth out BW, but enhance it

Voodoo does make me horny about an hour in.
You don't want to soften BW but I still suggest tightening the ratio. Like 8 BW 4V like lostdream suggested. Or even 14 BW 7 V. I'll be curious about your results

Post: #19

Humble apologies to derail ur thread Tyriel. But I thought I'll add it in hopes u may find it useful as well.

5 BW to 5 VD (separate app points/NOT over lapped) was DITH galore for me. And trust me, if an ugly mug like me gets DITH's like that, there's something in it. Lol.

For me 3 BW on me inner left wrist smudged on right side of the neck and 2 BW on me inner right wrist smudged on me left side of the neck. And 5 VD on me outer left wrist and outer left arm smudged with outer right wrist.

Tested it in a few ride shares and that same night, out and about. I loved it. What I simply want from these products, is just a little IOI. And DITH's are the best for it. I just start with something silly with a smile. Like "take a photo, it'll last longer" or "do I have booggers in me nose?" With a smile of course. Amd BLEIVE me, the convo keeps flowing from there on out. And play the push pull. Works for me.

With Spidey's BW + VD (BooVoo combo as he coined it, lol. Did I spell it right Spidey? ) I went spastic adding DP and AV. I find bottle mixed inside the same vial is a KILLER combo. Inside a test vial I mixed 5 BW 5 VD 5 DP 5 AV and added 1 or 2 drops of Androstadienone as well into it (I can vaguely remember ) oh boy, didn't I get all the good attention with that combo. one of the few combos that I belive the A.1 to cops ratio is just right.

Post: #20

First of all, thank you for all the replies!

(11-09-2017 11:55 AM)TheManInTheFedora Wrote:  I have actually used both certo (unscented 2012/2013 formula) and NA alone or with Androstadienone. These are so far the only mones that my wife has openly reacted to.

Though certo was perhaps the only mone that made my wife talk dirty to me...it took many sessions of exposure. Though I have not combo-ed it with anything, my guess would be to use something to amplify the effects...perhaps, core...my guess.

With Nude alpha either alone or especially, Androstadienone ...saw more blatant hits with strangers ...DITHL, respect hits, hair twirls, flirts. Moreover, my wife one at least 3 occasions remarked how 'handsome' I am. My looks were never remarked on so favorably even back in the early days of our relationship.


For the type of 'lovey dovey' or close relationship/romance, I give the edge to NA....the imprinting on targets is outta this world. Scary how this thing works...like BigDickBandit remarked, 'like mind control.' If you combine with Androstadienone ....oh, man...killer sh*t...stalkers, sexual innuendo etc... The one drawback that I can think of is reverse imprinting which has been mentioned by many here before....it can be unbearable. IF you try this, place the NA (esp. Androstadienone ) as far away from your nose as possible. Otherwise, the chick who is being drawn in...will constantly be on your mind. Nobody is immune from this as listmate, TrojanMagician said in his ranking top 5 mones.

Returning to Core....I found it to be a useful combo with NA...if core ramped up NA and/or as other listmates state just about anything else...I am thinking to give it a try with Certo to see what you pull out of that one.

Thanks for this extensive experience report. NA looks like a product for me to try. I always get recommended brands and variants that I currently do not own, but I am afraid that I will be buying for hundreds of dollars of products, of which many of them have a great overlap in effects with others. I am wondering if is there a point of having five different alpha products, five different sexual products five different socials and five different romance products, which only slightly differ in functionality. I already have seven different phero-mixes and I am afraid I am going to overdo it with the variety. I sometimes see people with 50+ products and am amazed that they know each different product + their possible combinations, including dosing and application points. Then I wonder "why?". Why not stick to 6-7 of the best products that do their job?

(11-09-2017 12:44 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  @ Tyriel

You're most welcome. And thanks for posting about Certo, it still remains a pretty obscure product as far as I'm concerned.

I ordered from LAL last week for a total of $360. Shipping was $14 international. Emailed Garry directly and asked for what I wanted and paid with bitcoin, it went smooth. I've ordered from PXS on 2 occasions and I got free international shipping both times. That was from the US site. Aromafero carries several LAL products. They're based in Europe and shipping costs are low, think it's 5 or 6 euros.

TUSC is very different from the old AM. It's more like a powerful, yet likeable aura. The CEO everybody loves. It inspires trust and deference in others from what I've seen. It mostly attracts confident women who aren't afraid to make the first move. Old AM is the bad boy formula, high in none. It hits people in a different way, more sexual hits. TUSC gives me many respect and attraction hits, but not as in your face as old AM.

As for my experiences with Xist, they're anecdotal. I think it can hit women of all ages, I mostly tried it on the night scene. I noticed that typically alpha females, the strong independent types were attracted to me with that combo. For example a mid 30's hotel manager who dragged me into a corner in a bar as I was ordering a beer, a bit too aggressive for my taste. If I took away the Xist and went with BW and AV, it attracted more normal, younger and submissive women.

Thanks MacCauley!

Nice to know that you can also order directly from LAL via e-mail.

On the TUSC, would combining the old AM with Corpo have similar effects?

I am a newbie in pheromones and especially in combining, and I do not know if I will be able to turn the Xist hits into younger girls with my current phero's. Luckily I have only asked for a sample.

(11-09-2017 12:48 PM)TheManInTheFedora Wrote:  @Tyriel,

almost forgot to mention - though I have no idea of Black Spice as I have never smelled it. However, if you mentioned that other listmates have said that it resembled the pre-reformulated Armani Code...the general consensus is that Zegna Intenso resembles the original AC...the following pages suggest through votes that certain other colognes like Zegna, Cuba Copacobana etc closely resemble the original AC :





(please see 'This perfume reminds me of ' about the middle of the page after the notes pyramid)

If any other listmates who have had experience with Black Spice can chime in, that would be cool too.

Hope That This Helps!

Thanks Fedora! I have also search Fragrantica and looked for scents similar to Armani Code, in the left side of the screen. I went to the perfume store yesterday and tried around eight different colognes, which all had spices and fruit in their notes. None of them came even close.

So the colognes that have absolutely no resemblance to Black Spice:

Spicebomb
Spicebomb Extreme
Fahrenheit
Fahrenheit Perfume
Dior Sport Homme
Dior Homme
Dior Homme Intense
Dior Homme Perfume

(11-09-2017 1:22 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  I'm not an expert on fragrances, only tried a few colognes in my day. Black Spice is a nice, pretty strong scent, spicy as the name suggests. I think it comes pretty close to Mambo if anybody's tried that.

@ Bandit. Nice. I think NA really shows it's power when you use it in the same places around the same girls over a period of times, it's like it gets better over time and it's pretty easy to just go with it. I look forward to hearing about your experiences.

Is this the one?

(11-09-2017 5:58 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  Humble apologies to derail ur thread Tyriel. But I thought I'll add it in hopes u may find it useful as well.

5 BW to 5 VD (separate app points/NOT over lapped) was DITH galore for me. And trust me, if an ugly mug like me gets DITH's like that, there's something in it. Lol.

For me 3 BW on me inner left wrist smudged on right side of the neck and 2 BW on me inner right wrist smudged on me left side of the neck. And 5 VD on me outer left wrist and outer left arm smudged with outer right wrist.

Tested it in a few ride shares and that same night, out and about. I loved it. What I simply want from these products, is just a little IOI. And DITH's are the best for it. I just start with something silly with a smile. Like "take a photo, it'll last longer" or "do I have booggers in me nose?" With a smile of course. Amd BLEIVE me, the convo keeps flowing from there on out. And play the push pull. Works for me.

With Spidey's BW + VD (BooVoo combo as he coined it, lol. Did I spell it right Spidey? ) I went spastic adding DP and AV. I find bottle mixed inside the same vial is a KILLER combo. Inside a test vial I mixed 5 BW 5 VD 5 DP 5 AV and added 1 or 2 drops of Androstadienone as well into it (I can vaguely remember ) oh boy, didn't I get all the good attention with that combo. one of the few combos that I belive the A.1 to cops ratio is just right.

Thanks for the detailed answer Chocolate and sorry to keep it short. But as I wrote in my reply to Fedora, I am a currently not buying two more phero's, because I already spent way too much money on phero's and whisky this month ;) And I still have six nearly full bottles of phero's to and two decent sized sample bottles to finish.