Post: #11

(04-21-2014 8:01 AM)NikkiReloaded Wrote:  From what I've read so far, P91 is the main driver in MX297.

I emailed Garry about potential combinations for SXD-9. He says: "Anything Alpha, Dirty Primitive will be excellent. Shouldn't be anything that would make it go wrong." I want to try it with DP, as well as SOB (separately). I tried New Pheromone Additive in the past and it didn't go well. I was still very new. I am tempted to buy some now to mix with 69

It's all about experimentation at this point. Sexual seduction mixes are not working the way we want them to. That's why we are mixing mixes.

You will find that molecule X does not play well with molecule Y but molecule A plays very well with molecule B. Some molecules just don't work well together.

I have also found that some molecules "overide" others. It seems like with EST you may need a 100 to 1 ratio of Androstenone to EST to overide the effects of EST. Beta Androstinol (sp) is another molecule that is hard to overide in a mix.

I have some sympathy for vendors as it is so hard to "get it right". There are thousands of combinations of well over 40 known pheromones. That does not even take into consideration the ratios of one pheromone to another in a mix.

Right now all of us (vendors included) are experimenting and guessing at best.

Post: #12

I like your style Paradox but I disagree with your take on MX297. You are right that it has ZERO sexual pull by itself. However, I find that using it in small amounts (1 spray from a 5ml) works wonders when tempering a high none mix. I found it had great results and number closed several chicks using it paired with none. At least for me it never canceled out the sexual vibe of any Androstenone product I was using at the time.

Post: #13

(04-21-2014 5:15 PM)andromun Wrote:  I like your style Paradox but I disagree with your take on MX297. You are right that it has ZERO sexual pull by itself. However, I find that using it in small amounts (1 spray from a 5ml) works wonders when tempering a high none mix. I found it had great results and number closed several chicks using it paired with none. At least for me it never canceled out the sexual vibe of any Androstenone product I was using at the time.

Here is the big question have you ever f* closed with MX297 on? No. I thought so!

(04-21-2014 7:28 AM)Paradox Wrote:  MX297 gives off a strong female signature. This female signature is so strong that it can not be changed with the addition of any product that I have tried.

While I have found that MX297 does have it's uses, it really makes you "one of the girls".

These are not only my observations, there is a thread at the Androtics forum where we (myself, Steve O and others) poke fun at MX297 by naming it Instant Girlfriend and Instant BFF.

I said MX97 has it's uses. Girls number close with each other all the time.

Post: #14

(04-21-2014 7:53 PM)Paradox Wrote:  Here is the big question have you ever f* closed with MX297 on? No. I thought so!

Actually I have - 2nd date wearing the same mones when I 1st met her. But I admit I had lots of Androstenone on for both encounters. If you're asking solo...just mx297 the straight up answer is no.

Post: #15

(04-21-2014 9:06 PM)andromun Wrote:  Actually I have - 2nd date wearing the same mones when I 1st met her. But I admit I had lots of Androstenone on for both encounters. If you're asking solo...just mx297 the straight up answer is no.

Cool beans. Out of the hundreds of users who have worn it you have the only lay report. Kudos

I may be wrong but this is the only MX297 lay report that I've read in the 4 years that it's been out.

Post: #16

So what are MX297's uses besides getting friend zoned? A good time with girls you have no romantic interest in? To add some fun to a relationship where physical intimacy or romance is already established?

Post: #17

(04-22-2014 7:13 AM)NikkiReloaded Wrote:  So what are MX297's uses besides getting friend zoned? A good time with girls you have no romantic interest in? To add some fun to a relationship where physical intimacy or romance is already established?

1. Social proof-talking to two or three girls in a group is great social proof for those looking on.

2. Bait and switch (learned this from Catlord) One of my MX297 tricks is to start the night with MX297, talk to a few girls the wash it off and apply Androstenone.

3. PUA practice. For those that need it MX297 allows you to talk to the prettiest girls in the room with no resistance because you are "one of the girls".

4. You really don't expect me to list all of my PUA secrets here do you?

Post: #18

(04-22-2014 7:02 AM)Paradox Wrote:  Cool beans. Out of the hundreds of users who have worn it you have the only lay report. Kudos

I may be wrong but this is the only MX297 lay report that I've read in the 4 years that it's been out.

Not true, MX297 when a good batch is an amazing mix period. It has been said many times that you have to steer it the right way and to pair it with some none ( ie, Evolve, AV etc) or Androstanone P75 comes to mind to make it a closer.

Tbh, I've got layed from just a spray of mx297 paired with IH and my natural phero out put which is high on dienone. But as we say, mones are always 10-20% of the equation and if you rely more than that on them you surely will get disappointed.

Now back to the topic of this thread that's SXD-9..

Post: #19

Yeah, I definitely want to post more SXD-9 related stuff. It was great to hear perspective on MX297 but let's get back to the topic.

Post: #20

(04-22-2014 8:01 AM)AlfaAv297 Wrote:  Not true, MX297 when a good batch is an amazing mix period. It has been said many times that you have to steer it the right way and to pair it with some none ( ie, Evolve, AV etc) or Androstanone P75 comes to mind to make it a closer.

Tbh, I've got layed from just a spray of mx297 paired with Instant Honesty and my natural phero out put which is high on dienone. But as we say, mones are always 10-20% of the equation and if you rely more than that on them you surely will get disappointed.

Now back to the topic of this thread that's SXD-9..

Cool. Kudos to you. I assume you have measured your high natural Androstadienone pheromone output?

Not putting the kabosh on anyones pheromone experience. I really have found lay reports from MX297 rare and almost non existant.

If it is all that great the why aren't users getting laid more with it. Why aren't you getting laid daily with this combo? Is there some sort of secret cabal of MX297 users who are getting laid with MX297 and not reporting it?

In this thread ( John Sebastian asks the community for a name for MX297.

okyoureabeast-said it was a Cataylst for the female enzyme
P51Mustang suggested the name Instant Friend Zone
dsouza suggested the name Instant Ross (from Friends)
Steve O suggested the name LJBF
Thegentleman agreed with the name LJBF
paradox1 suggested the name Instant BFF


I'm tired of talking about MX297 also. After all, it's the internet. I could be arguing with a 7 year old.