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07-29-2015 5:12 PM

I posted this in the Men's area but realized that this applies to women as much as men. And that it wouldn't be fair to keep this from anyone. I will copy and paste the thing I wrote. It was written to men, keep that in mind. But the underlying message is the same:

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I've had 20 years of hypnosis, NLP and more unknown training in manipulation. The unknown part is something that really got me results. I don't feel comfortable mentioning them here, hit me up on PM if you're interested.

The Alpha/Beta distinction is valid to a certain point. If you divide it into people who take charge in their life as opposed to doormats.

But it's a very rudimentary distinction. There are times where you have the most manipulative influence being subordinate. Oh no! Being subordinate? Being uncomfortable with that is a problem. I will do what gets me my outcome.

There is a scale, not an either/or. You're not either Alpha or Beta. It's only a way to say that some people are weaklings.

In reality, there is a fluidity to it. Being stuck in a dominant position is very limiting, If you know how to flow through the different positions, it will get you much better results.

This will upset the "alpha dominant is good and anything else is bad" folk. That's ok. They can stay that way.

What if you were friendly/equal? Or subordinate/student? It gets responses out of people. It works.

Thing is, are you comfortable with being subordinate? If not, you have a problem. The nice folk I would refer you to would know how to solve that.

To illustrate, they teach a skill that allows you to set a trigger to a gesture or expression you make that triggers the mone effects even when you're not using any.

Anyway, don't be limited by Alpha/Beta. Be human with all it's nuances.
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DOSING: Often I use the term "finger" when talking about how much I used. It's a way in which I use Euro dropper and roll on bottles. With a Euro dropper bottle, it means I put my finger firmly on top of it, turn it upside down for a few moments and turn it back up. What's on my finger is a dose of 1 finger. I started doing this because Euro dropper bottles tend to spill.

A finger from a roll on bottle is when I turn the roller until approximately the same amount as I would get from a Euro dropper is on my finger.
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RE: Manipulation
08-20-2015 5:59 AM

I don't believe there is an either/or in this particular regard. I also find that "servant leadership" is incredibly effective. However, I'm also a woman and I've learned how to use my "womanly wiles", whether innocence or dominance or that "somewhere in between". So, yes, I'm inclined to agree with your assessment. It depends on the target really, and our ability to adapt to our situations.

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08-20-2015 6:13 AM

hypnosis, NLP and more unknown training in manipulation. The unknown part is something that really got me results.

Haven't touched any of those, but if there's an UNKNOWN FOR DUMMIES, I'd be interested in what it all involves, Mr! But if you have to have experience in ALL THE ABOVE, don't waste your sharing.

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08-20-2015 10:35 AM

(08-20-2015 5:59 AM)NuTrix Wrote:  I don't believe there is an either/or in this particular regard. I also find that "servant leadership" is incredibly effective. However, I'm also a woman and I've learned how to use my "womanly wiles", whether innocence or dominance or that "somewhere in between". So, yes, I'm inclined to agree with your assessment. It depends on the target really, and our ability to adapt to our situations.

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(08-20-2015 6:13 AM)MMM Wrote:  hypnosis, NLP and more unknown training in manipulation. The unknown part is something that really got me results.

Haven't touched any of those, but if there's an UNKNOWN FOR DUMMIES, I'd be interested in what it all involves, Mr! But if you have to have experience in ALL THE ABOVE, don't waste your sharing.

Thanks!

No previous training needed and it's not at all difficult. PM me if you're interested.

DOSING: Often I use the term "finger" when talking about how much I used. It's a way in which I use Euro dropper and roll on bottles. With a Euro dropper bottle, it means I put my finger firmly on top of it, turn it upside down for a few moments and turn it back up. What's on my finger is a dose of 1 finger. I started doing this because Euro dropper bottles tend to spill.

A finger from a roll on bottle is when I turn the roller until approximately the same amount as I would get from a Euro dropper is on my finger.
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09-04-2015 4:07 PM

Ok I am disturbed and intrigued at the same time.

I feel like I want to know, but then I feel like there is some untold suffering waiting for me somewhere if I were to ever use something like that.

This would be amazing to use in business as I am going the entrepreneurial route and anything that could get me more clients and smooth over relationships would be great.

But I wouldn't want to hurt anyone.

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09-04-2015 9:38 PM

I'm intrigued as well.

I can create a vibe without saying anything, just by being in the room.

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09-05-2015 9:12 AM

(09-04-2015 4:07 PM)Honeycake Wrote:  Ok I am disturbed and intrigued at the same time.

I feel like I want to know, but then I feel like there is some untold suffering waiting for me somewhere if I were to ever use something like that.

This would be amazing to use in business as I am going the entrepreneurial route and anything that could get me more clients and smooth over relationships would be great.

But I wouldn't want to hurt anyone.

It is great for business.

It's not unethical, except if you choose to do unethical things with it and hurt people. You can also help people. Or get an edge in life, like with mones. If you're ok with mones, you'll be ok with this.

I'll get to the PM's a little later, just remembered I forgot to get something from the store.

DOSING: Often I use the term "finger" when talking about how much I used. It's a way in which I use Euro dropper and roll on bottles. With a Euro dropper bottle, it means I put my finger firmly on top of it, turn it upside down for a few moments and turn it back up. What's on my finger is a dose of 1 finger. I started doing this because Euro dropper bottles tend to spill.

A finger from a roll on bottle is when I turn the roller until approximately the same amount as I would get from a Euro dropper is on my finger.
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