Post: #31

(04-23-2015 12:19 PM)bonadzz Wrote:  ETFZ and all of my alcohol based products are ethyl alcohol. There is some DPG in my alcohol based formulas though (under 25%) to control diffusion as pure ethyl alcohol will evaporate off of you very quickly, regardless of what climate you are in.
-John

Thanks for clearing that up John. Much appreciated

Post: #32

(03-10-2015 1:27 PM)Snoopyace Wrote:  That's GREAT! I used to really like XiSt (Still do) but after I found Grail of Affection (which seems pretty similar to Escape The Friendzone) and it works surprisingly quickly, more quickly than XiSt did. I hope things keep moving forward in a fun way for you!

Hello Snoopyace. I am seeking a bit of clarification. Your post above seems to indicate that ETFZ is similar to GOA. However, in another thread in which EFTZ was discussed, Kimosabe who is just as knowledgeable about and experienced with PT products as you are believes they are two "completely different products". Since you have used both and believe them to be similar, could you give a comparison of the two. Not trying to start any kind of disagreement just seeking some clarification. Thanks.

Post: #33

Since I have a bottle of ETFZ on the way, thought id bump the thread. Any more testing reports? I'm also wondering if it was any imprinting qualities? Waiting is so hard sometimes.....can't wait to give it a test run!

Post: #34

I had an ETFZ sample, though only used it twice before it ran out. Results are inconclusive for me, as I notice disinhibition and definitely had deeper conversations than usual. The conversation turned sexual for a while, though I'm not sure whether it's simply the disinhibition part or the sexual part of ETFZ that led to this. The titular promise of ETFZ may take more than two exposures I think, so even though I haven't seen clear results I'll get a full bottle at some point. Since reviews are universally positive I'll take a leap and see.

Post: #35

Beta -nol + Androstenone will cause the sexual conversation through creating a sexual response plus verbal disinhibition. I feel as though there's more to ETFZ's disinhibition than the verbal side, and if so that fourth ingredient could be Beta-THDOC. I expect I'll start wearing this mix again soon enough, but the fake musk used in Musk Cybilla is quite irritating.

Post: #36

Thanks E! Exactly what I'm looking for. I ordered it yesterday, just waiting for the shipping confirmation email.

Post: #37

Just wanted to add some info on ETFZ. I sent John a PM and asked about the designed effects and how exposure time would correlate to obtain the desired effects. I used my situation, which is about 40 minutes for 3-4 times a week. Here is his reply:

"This is perfect. ETFZ is supposed to work over small intervals like this over time to imprint sexual feelings in a girl. I think with this routine you have you should see some nice hits and progress getting out of the friend zone."

Hope this information helps!

Post: #38

This may explain why ETFZ is not fully working for me, actually. I saw her for 7 hours once, and the second time was only seconds before we had to part. Technically, only the first one counts. We live far away at the moment so I haven't seen her in person since. The disinhibition over that one long exposure was there though so I'm cautiously optimistic that this will work over repeated exposures, once we're in the same city again.

We did see each other for a while years ago, but I messed up and we're only friends now. In addition to this, she's not interested in a relationship at the moment, so this is gonna be a big test for ETFZ. We'll see.

Post: #39

Good luck! I'm going to start my testing Saturday, unless USPS gets it to me faster. Also looking into the future, and wondering if I want to add a drop of NA and a social like love boat or something else. Decisions.....

Post: #40

Nooo loveboat has DHEA and Pregnenolone, iirc.