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Balancing Self and Other Effects
03-16-2013 11:15 PM
I've been lurking here a few weeks, and bought some products from LAL based on reviews here. These included AV, Nude, Nude Alpha and Hypnotica. I'm running into a recurring conundrum with these mones. I'm hoping I can get some insight from the fine people here.
I seem to have negative self effects from the mones that most consistently get positive other-effects. The negative self-effects mainly hurt my ability to fully follow what other people are saying and keep pace in a conversation. What makes the other-effects so obvious is that people don't seem to mind that I'm clearly a dim wit.
These effects are experienced in varying degrees. Among the LALs, the worst is hypnotica. I couldn't keep it on long enough to test it out. Second AV, third Nude. I also had negative effects with Perception gel from Love Scent, but that mainly hurt my ability to organize myself. I lost all sorts of crap and was late to stuff and missed appointments the week I was using that. Communication wasn't that bad with perception; it was actually improved sometimes because of increased confidence, but I felt uncomfortable, like mind mush.
I think all the forms of negative self-effects I'm experiencing can be classed with the depressive symptoms attributed to certain molecules, like androsteidnon. I do have a sensitivity to some artificial fragrances, so I tend to buy hypoallergenic products. But not all mones trigger a negative reaction. The Pherone brand creates nothing but positive effects. Pherone M-11 is actually the only pheromone product to which my partner has ever responded, so there's not always an inverse relationship between self/other effects. Sometimes I put some M-15 under my nose if need a boost in motivation and focus. And the Athena products were somewhat effective socially, with no negative self-effects, but they are way too expensive.
Overall, I'm loving the other-effects I notice from LAL and the Perception Gel. It's way more pronounced and consistent than the other products I've tried, but the self effects undercut their usefulness. I'd rather be competent than greatly loved in the end. What is your take on my experience? Do you have any suggestions?
Are there other molecules associated with the negative self-effects I'm describing? Perhaps I can ask manufacturers to direct me to effective products without the potential problem molecules.
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RE: Balancing Self and Other Effects
03-16-2013 11:30 PM
(03-16-2013 11:15 PM)Ráðbarður Wrote: I've been lurking here a few weeks, and bought some products from LAL based on reviews here. These included AV, Nude, Nude Alpha and Hypnotica. I'm running into a recurring conundrum with these mones. I'm hoping I can get some insight from the fine people here.
I seem to have negative self effects from the mones that most consistently get positive other-effects. The negative self-effects mainly hurt my ability to fully follow what other people are saying and keep pace in a conversation. What makes the other-effects so obvious is that people don't seem to mind that I'm clearly a dim wit.
These effects are experienced in varying degrees. Among the LALs, the worst is hypnotica. I couldn't keep it on long enough to test it out. Second AV, third Nude. I also had negative effects with Perception gel from Love Scent, but that mainly hurt my ability to organize myself. I lost all sorts of crap and was late to stuff and missed appointments the week I was using that. Communication wasn't that bad with perception; it was actually improved sometimes because of increased confidence, but I felt uncomfortable, like mind mush.
I think all the forms of negative self-effects I'm experiencing can be classed with the depressive symptoms attributed to certain molecules, like androsteidnon. I do have a sensitivity to some artificial fragrances, so I tend to buy hypoallergenic products. But not all mones trigger a negative reaction. The Pherone brand creates nothing but positive effects. Pherone M-11 is actually the only pheromone product to which my partner has ever responded, so there's not always an inverse relationship between self/other effects. Sometimes I put some M-15 under my nose if need a boost in motivation and focus. And the Athena products were somewhat effective socially, with no negative self-effects, but they are way too expensive.
Overall, I'm loving the other-effects I notice from LAL and the Perception Gel. It's way more pronounced and consistent than the other products I've tried, but the self effects undercut their usefulness. I'd rather be competent than greatly loved in the end. What is your take on my experience? Do you have any suggestions?
Are there other molecules associated with the negative self-effects I'm describing? Perhaps I can ask manufacturers to direct me to effective products without the potential problem molecules.
Sincerely,
Ráðbarður
Try submicrogram doses (~.05mcg) of pregnenolone and 5htp under the nose. Also, have you considered lowering the quantity of mones you were using?
I've never heard of pherone. What's in it?
(This post was last modified: 03-16-2013 11:36 PM by wiserd.)
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