Post: #1

Ok so I have a question about one of my favourite androtics products, instant jerk.
Now as I know the majority of the pherimonal makup is Androstenone. But androtics states that it contains 3 mones, so I was wondering what the other 2 would be?? Any ideas of likely candidates?? Would like to be able to replicate this or tylor it into a single mix that I can use with other pheramones instead of using various products.

The only reason I ask is because I have better success with instant jerk in my mixes than Turn Up The Heat, so I have come to the conclusion that it must be a difference in the additional pheromones/putatives.

Description:

Total pheromone per spray: 15mcg (+/- 5%)
Total pheromone content per bottle: 3000 mcg
Sprays per bottle: Approximately 200

Post: #2

I guess the 2nd ingredient is Copulins.

cul8er.

Post: #3

I'll take a stab and say that I think it may have a bit of Beta Androstenol in it. Beta Androstenol can have a "jerk" feeling if not paired with the softer Alpha Androstenol. Cops would have been the other ingredient in the original...I never heard an answer as to whether it still had cops or not.

Post: #4

Maybe this is interesting:

Post: #5

I have the new version and it definitely does not have cops in it. unless its in the tiniest quantity that I cannot smell.
B Nol seems like it could be in there and maybe TAA but I don't know, its just TAA or at least instant shine gets me energetic which happens when I wear instant jerk.

I think beta nol is a good shout, cheers

Post: #6

I have both the old and the new that I used for testing purposes and no copulins are definitely not in the new one. The 3 pheromones still applies though because I dont believe Androtics ever categorized copulins as a pheromone or a putative

I dont feel the Beta Androstenol in it although that of course dosent mean its not there. My opinion is TAA and P93

Tisha

Post: #7

I have a bottle of new IJ, the one without the cops.

I've read about people adding huge amounts of cops to IJ. I would rather mix a strong batch of Essence of Woman + cologne/alcohol than risk messing up my IJ.

What concentration of Essence of Woman would go well with IJ? (I already have 180:1)

Post: #8

I think the answer to that question is "experiment and find out".

IJ used cops for so-called "social proofing" which is a pick-up-artist term. Basically it means that if people see others treating you as hihg status they will tend to think you are high status. Others say that the real effect of copulins is to raise testosterone levels and that the social proofing stuff is bunk as far as cops are concerned. It makes sense, even if copulins signalled fertility in women that's no good if he doesn't have the mojo to do anything about it ;)

Post: #9

AD stopped using cops in Jerk and women's products a long time ago. There was a lot of discussion--often heated and extensive--about this very topic on their boards and here.

If you really desired the "freshly fucked" vibe in your cologne, click over to Love Scent and buy a bottle of Essence of Woman . Add a wee bit to Jerk and smell like the jerk 'o jerks!